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Message: <blockquote data-quote="el-remmen" data-source="post: 8454264" data-attributes="member: 11">New vs. Old or Young vs. Old?In one of my current groups, the four players consist of two people who have not played since 2E during teens/college days (20+ years ago) and two people who have never played before. We range in age from 38 to 50. The two folks who have played before have some expectations based on how they used to play, but these are pretty different. One player is ready for everything to go against him always and the other is always looking for ways to get something more/something cool. Neverthless, in terms of 5E and stuff that has developed since 2E they still seem kinda "newish" to me.The two folks who have never played before at all did not arrive via Critical Role (one of them tried it but it was not for her). One of them loves Arrowverse shows and GoT and the like and the other is coming from being a hardcore board game player (Euro games and co-op games). You'd think the former would want a more over the top heroic game, but she doesn't seem to have much in the way of expectations except to be challenged and have fun each session. The latter player doesn't really have much in the way of expectation, but is very much about grasping the rules and making the best choices for his character (not necessarily optimized).So my experience of new vs. old in this group doesn't really tell me much based on the framework you've laid out.On the other hand, I had three players drop my other group who are newish and in their late 20s/early 30s who I think just were just used to a different style of game. Two of them in particular seemed to just want to play through cool stories and scenarios that took maybe three to six months to play through but had little interest in granular tactical combats or slow-advancement/development of characters (like I like to run) and seem frustrated by it. Ultimately, we were not a good fit, I think (we're still friends, just don't play RPGs together). So they were kinda young (compared to my old ass, at least) but mostly kinda new to the game (had only played on an off for three or four years). But not sure their desired game style had anything to do with their age or experience (though I guess if the games they had first played had been like mine they might have decided D&D was not for them).Not sure what if anything this says or if my experience of new and/or younger players is just insufficient to come to any conclusions.</blockquote>

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