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<blockquote data-quote="AndrewDB" data-source="post: 5359556" data-attributes="member: 67594"><p>The OP wants to know about the online tools project, and some are advocating that we stop paying for DDI. While I do not think anyone is unreasonable for being upset over the delayed updates, I want to suggest that anger over the online tools project is collateral (dare I say, unwarranted).</p><p></p><p>There are two separate things going on in the discussion, but they are being globbed together as one. Although the delayed updates and the online tools project are related, I wanted to suggest that we don't have good reason to be angry about both.</p><p></p><p>That's why I described the two situations as I did. I wanted to suggest that WOTC is not responsible for people who dance around their NDA. I wanted to suggest that programmers telling us that they are programming but can't tell us more until the project is finished is not something to be angry about.</p><p></p><p>Both of these situations naturally trigger interest in the online tools project, the same interest voiced by the OP. But our desire for more information about the project should not (opinion) be converted into anger and financial retaliation again WOTC. Our desire for more information about the project is essentially a matter of self gratification.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand we have the delayed updates. People paid for DDI expecting a certain level of service (regularity and scope of updates). Not getting that level of service naturally results in dissatisfaction.</p><p></p><p>This is where some are advocating that we stop paying for DDI. Punish WOTC for not reaching an expected level of service? Fine. But the OP wants to know if we have more information about the online tools project. We don't have more information. We really want more information. So punish WOTC for not telling us more about an unfinished project? No thank you (opinion).</p><p></p><p>But others are welcome to think these are the same problem, that I shouldn't try to separate them, and that I should stop splitting hairs. I don't think I'm splitting hairs as much as connecting consequences to the appropriate cause. By connecting delayed updates to dropped DDI subscriptions, trying to reduce collateral dissatisfaction with the online tools project, maybe OPs can ask questions about the online tools project and just get information about the online tools project.</p><p></p><p>I may be unreasonable for trying to point out subtleties on the internet. That is not to say anyone here is incapable of understanding the subtleties I am trying to point out. No. I should realize expressing anger is a way to purge bottled emotions, and that my first post in a way was asking people to keep those feelings bottled up. That may have been unfair of me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AndrewDB, post: 5359556, member: 67594"] The OP wants to know about the online tools project, and some are advocating that we stop paying for DDI. While I do not think anyone is unreasonable for being upset over the delayed updates, I want to suggest that anger over the online tools project is collateral (dare I say, unwarranted). There are two separate things going on in the discussion, but they are being globbed together as one. Although the delayed updates and the online tools project are related, I wanted to suggest that we don't have good reason to be angry about both. That's why I described the two situations as I did. I wanted to suggest that WOTC is not responsible for people who dance around their NDA. I wanted to suggest that programmers telling us that they are programming but can't tell us more until the project is finished is not something to be angry about. Both of these situations naturally trigger interest in the online tools project, the same interest voiced by the OP. But our desire for more information about the project should not (opinion) be converted into anger and financial retaliation again WOTC. Our desire for more information about the project is essentially a matter of self gratification. On the other hand we have the delayed updates. People paid for DDI expecting a certain level of service (regularity and scope of updates). Not getting that level of service naturally results in dissatisfaction. This is where some are advocating that we stop paying for DDI. Punish WOTC for not reaching an expected level of service? Fine. But the OP wants to know if we have more information about the online tools project. We don't have more information. We really want more information. So punish WOTC for not telling us more about an unfinished project? No thank you (opinion). But others are welcome to think these are the same problem, that I shouldn't try to separate them, and that I should stop splitting hairs. I don't think I'm splitting hairs as much as connecting consequences to the appropriate cause. By connecting delayed updates to dropped DDI subscriptions, trying to reduce collateral dissatisfaction with the online tools project, maybe OPs can ask questions about the online tools project and just get information about the online tools project. I may be unreasonable for trying to point out subtleties on the internet. That is not to say anyone here is incapable of understanding the subtleties I am trying to point out. No. I should realize expressing anger is a way to purge bottled emotions, and that my first post in a way was asking people to keep those feelings bottled up. That may have been unfair of me. [/QUOTE]
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