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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8947052" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>I'm not. I'm speaking from extremely long experience of playing both Druids and Clerics. The idea that the grass is greener is hilarious - I own both houses (hell, several times in the last three years I played both in the same week!). The Cleric list is far better when it comes to actual game impact, and not due to that one combo.</p><p></p><p>Pretty much all these spells are either mediocre and commonly available (Thunderwave, Flaming Sphere), have been nerfed severely already in 1E (Goodberry - it is no longer a "standout"), or will undoubtedly be nerfed - there's no way the actually-good (and I agree they are good) summons Druids have in 5E survive into 1E. Absolutely none. And I think you know that. Those spells are either gone entirely, or nerfed into the ground.</p><p></p><p>Which leaves us with Pass Without Trace, which is a good spell, but niche and rarely actually useful (not never!), and Spike Growth, which is just a great spell, but I give it 50/50 odds of being severely nerfed.</p><p></p><p>Have we seen even a single Arcane spell so far nerfed? I don't think we have. And I don't think we will do. OP junk like Fireball will probably remain OP.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8947052, member: 18"] I'm not. I'm speaking from extremely long experience of playing both Druids and Clerics. The idea that the grass is greener is hilarious - I own both houses (hell, several times in the last three years I played both in the same week!). The Cleric list is far better when it comes to actual game impact, and not due to that one combo. Pretty much all these spells are either mediocre and commonly available (Thunderwave, Flaming Sphere), have been nerfed severely already in 1E (Goodberry - it is no longer a "standout"), or will undoubtedly be nerfed - there's no way the actually-good (and I agree they are good) summons Druids have in 5E survive into 1E. Absolutely none. And I think you know that. Those spells are either gone entirely, or nerfed into the ground. Which leaves us with Pass Without Trace, which is a good spell, but niche and rarely actually useful (not never!), and Spike Growth, which is just a great spell, but I give it 50/50 odds of being severely nerfed. Have we seen even a single Arcane spell so far nerfed? I don't think we have. And I don't think we will do. OP junk like Fireball will probably remain OP. [/QUOTE]
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