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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bendris Noulg" data-source="post: 780402" data-attributes="member: 6398">And perhaps everyone that prefers something not so magic ridden should play something else, for which the WotC Staff thanks us profusely during the next lay off.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Seriously, though, 3E is, well, not just magic, but magic ridden.  While they have produced lower-magic games (WoT, CoC), the hard-coding of 3E's magic level is, well, laughable, particularly to those that never had so much magic in their games.  What was previously a choice is now a necessity, unless you take the time to fix it.Of course, switching to d20Modern, which is far more flexible, is an option now, but is it worth dumping 2 years of work?The idea of a d20Fantasy have been tossed about here and there, which I might switch to.  But I'd have to see it, and it's certainly nothing that WotC people have at all mentioned themselves.So, it is sad in that WotC themselves seem to turn their backs on alternatives within the D&D line.Not that it bothers me that much.  It usually just means more 3rd Party folks get my money.</blockquote>