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<blockquote data-quote="Mystaros" data-source="post: 4103177" data-attributes="member: 3921"><p>I used to run into this issue all the time when I ran for younger players. It is only natural for them to want to explore the "Dark Side" of things.</p><p></p><p>I have generally allowed players to choose whatever alignment they wish, with the caveat that "Evil gets as Evil does." There are always consequences for Evil, just as there are for Good in my campaign. Karma isn't a nebulous concept; as the DM, I am the pro-active Hand of Fate.</p><p></p><p>That doesn't mean you should railroad them, unless they seriously screw up and you get the high upper hand through their stupidity (which, being young, they might not realize and still believe they are getting "unfair treatment").</p><p></p><p>Simply dropping a party of uber-powerful paladins on top of the party would not work; dropping hints that a party of paladins is after them, to hunt them down after torching the orphanage back in Fiddler's Green, is another thing. If they are smart and cooperate, they can avoid the danger, and maybe even get the drop on the goody-two-shoes.</p><p></p><p>A couple things that Evil players usually learn in my campaigns:</p><p></p><p>1) There's always someone more powerful than you are, and you are certain to get him angry at you if you are not careful;</p><p></p><p>2) If you treat your minions poorly, they will backstab you, even if you are teh kewl;</p><p></p><p>3) If you try to form a guild or a gang, you are always moving into someone else's territory, and they will always take issue;</p><p></p><p>4) If you go about committing random acts of violence, eventually hired swords/wandering paladins/Rangers of the North will find you and try to kill you and take your stuff. That's what most other adventuring parties *do*;</p><p></p><p>5) Never mouth off to the Big Boss Patron who is holding the white Persian cat. Never.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mystaros, post: 4103177, member: 3921"] I used to run into this issue all the time when I ran for younger players. It is only natural for them to want to explore the "Dark Side" of things. I have generally allowed players to choose whatever alignment they wish, with the caveat that "Evil gets as Evil does." There are always consequences for Evil, just as there are for Good in my campaign. Karma isn't a nebulous concept; as the DM, I am the pro-active Hand of Fate. That doesn't mean you should railroad them, unless they seriously screw up and you get the high upper hand through their stupidity (which, being young, they might not realize and still believe they are getting "unfair treatment"). Simply dropping a party of uber-powerful paladins on top of the party would not work; dropping hints that a party of paladins is after them, to hunt them down after torching the orphanage back in Fiddler's Green, is another thing. If they are smart and cooperate, they can avoid the danger, and maybe even get the drop on the goody-two-shoes. A couple things that Evil players usually learn in my campaigns: 1) There's always someone more powerful than you are, and you are certain to get him angry at you if you are not careful; 2) If you treat your minions poorly, they will backstab you, even if you are teh kewl; 3) If you try to form a guild or a gang, you are always moving into someone else's territory, and they will always take issue; 4) If you go about committing random acts of violence, eventually hired swords/wandering paladins/Rangers of the North will find you and try to kill you and take your stuff. That's what most other adventuring parties *do*; 5) Never mouth off to the Big Boss Patron who is holding the white Persian cat. Never. [/QUOTE]
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