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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lancelot" data-source="post: 6760356" data-attributes="member: 30022">If you're going to be a player, you already have everything you need if you have the PH and the SCAG. Arguably, you didn't need either of those. The basic rules are free online. But, if you really want to get into it as a player, and appreciate having nice books and lots of options... then the PH and SCAG are good choices.You don't need (or want) any of the other books if you're not DM'ing. They will simply ruin your surprise and sense of discovery in the game.If you are thinking about DM'ing, then I'm going to go against some of the advice provided here and say that you don't want Out of the Abyss, and you might not want Princes of the Apocalypse. You want the Starter Set. The module in the Starter Set (Lost Mine of Phandelver) is an excellent introduction to DM'ing. It's straight-forward, the monster and treasure stats are all available in the Starter Set (so you don't need the DMG or MM), and it's simply a fun adventure. Great maps, well-designed, and includes some surprises.Princes of the Apocalypse is more complex. You'd probably want some experience as a 5th edition DM before taking it on. However, it's still a lot more straight-forward than...Out of the Abyss is very complex for a new DM. There are a ton of NPCs to track, it's very free-form, and it gives absolutely no @#$%'s for ensuring balanced encounters. Unless the DM knows what they're doing, a 1st or 2nd level party could just stumble into a grell or a hunting pack of gnolls, and it's a quick TPK. I think it's a really good and flexible module for an experienced group, but I'd never recommend it for starters.</blockquote>

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