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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3982124" data-attributes="member: 18280">I find it particularly amusing that, way back when 4e was announced, and some of us were concerned about whether or not it would be OGL, a loud group of folks said "of course WotC will make 4e OGL".  When we were concerned about the type of content, the same group said "Of course WotC is listening to its consumer base".  When I express concerns about what the Gleemax terms actually mean -- and what WotC intends to do about rival sites like EN World and <a href="http://www.d20srd.org" target="_blank">www.d20srd.org</a> -- the response is (predictably) "Of course WotC wouldn't use your material posted to Gleemax" (despite their setting up the language to allow themselves to do just that, even though it is demonstrably true that they could protect their IP legally without resorting to such language).From the Unofficial 4e Info Page:D&D Brand Manager Scott Rouse has confiirmed unequivocably that there will be no d20 System Trademark License for 4th edition. "There will be the OGL and Wizards D&D products period. No d20 STL (tiered or otherwise) to be even more clear." Note that the Open Gaming License will still be around (which allows for third party products) - the d20 STL deals with the logo usage only. Scott adds that "We are looking to incorporate some sort of compatibility language within the new version of the OGL. Something like "Compatible with the 4th Edition of the Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying game..." Yet what we are getting is a tiered STL called an OGL.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> And some folks still think "Just Trust 'Em" is the best policy...... <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> No 4e for me, thank you.  I'd rather continue with a vibrant, healthy community of 3e-ers, even if that community becomes necessarily smaller.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> RC</blockquote>

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