Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
NEWS: OGL and SRD dates/info announced
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Reynard" data-source="post: 3982551" data-attributes="member: 467"><p>The more I think about this, I think that the $5K for the right to publish early isn't so much to keep the riff raff out or kill the small companies (though it may well do one or both of those things) as it is another marketting maneuver by WotC. Think about these facts for a moment:</p><p></p><p>1) 4E is contentious, as we can all attest to. Even if the majority of people move on to 4E, any customer attrition in such a niche industry is a bad thing. WotC is going to want to retain as much of their customer base as possible (hence the initial marketting to existing customers, such as posts by designers and developers on this very forum).</p><p></p><p>2) Any 3rd part company that is in a position to pay the $5K is a successful company, which means that it is a company with an existing, dedicated fanbase.</p><p></p><p>3) Said 3rd party companies want to remain successful, and they know as well as everyone else that most D&D players are going to be going to 4E, so they are powerfully motivated to publish 4E products.</p><p></p><p>4) WotC knows this.</p><p></p><p>Combine all these things and you get a situation where the desire to remain successful by the 3rd part copanies ends up serving as a statement of support for 4E for those fencesitters and anti-4Eers that are fans of those companies. When Necromancer and Goodman and Paizo sign up and announce that they'll be there for roll out, the fans of those companies and then motivated to buy 4E to continue to enjoy the products of the companies that they love. Moreover, they are told, even if tangentially, that 4E is in fact a good thing -- otherwise their favorite company wouldn't be signing on. In every way, it is a win for WotC, even if the costs of providing the 3rd party companies with all the necessary materials and support ends up costing more than $5K.</p><p></p><p>To use another analogy: the big, popular clubs in NY and LA are always comping celebrities. Why? because they want celebrities in their club, because celebrities draw in the paying crowds -- people want to be seen at the same club as P Diddy, or want a *chance* to see or talk to Paris. By taking the loss of a few bottle of Crystal, the clubs are getting hundreds or thousands in the door.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Reynard, post: 3982551, member: 467"] The more I think about this, I think that the $5K for the right to publish early isn't so much to keep the riff raff out or kill the small companies (though it may well do one or both of those things) as it is another marketting maneuver by WotC. Think about these facts for a moment: 1) 4E is contentious, as we can all attest to. Even if the majority of people move on to 4E, any customer attrition in such a niche industry is a bad thing. WotC is going to want to retain as much of their customer base as possible (hence the initial marketting to existing customers, such as posts by designers and developers on this very forum). 2) Any 3rd part company that is in a position to pay the $5K is a successful company, which means that it is a company with an existing, dedicated fanbase. 3) Said 3rd party companies want to remain successful, and they know as well as everyone else that most D&D players are going to be going to 4E, so they are powerfully motivated to publish 4E products. 4) WotC knows this. Combine all these things and you get a situation where the desire to remain successful by the 3rd part copanies ends up serving as a statement of support for 4E for those fencesitters and anti-4Eers that are fans of those companies. When Necromancer and Goodman and Paizo sign up and announce that they'll be there for roll out, the fans of those companies and then motivated to buy 4E to continue to enjoy the products of the companies that they love. Moreover, they are told, even if tangentially, that 4E is in fact a good thing -- otherwise their favorite company wouldn't be signing on. In every way, it is a win for WotC, even if the costs of providing the 3rd party companies with all the necessary materials and support ends up costing more than $5K. To use another analogy: the big, popular clubs in NY and LA are always comping celebrities. Why? because they want celebrities in their club, because celebrities draw in the paying crowds -- people want to be seen at the same club as P Diddy, or want a *chance* to see or talk to Paris. By taking the loss of a few bottle of Crystal, the clubs are getting hundreds or thousands in the door. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
NEWS: OGL and SRD dates/info announced
Top