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<blockquote data-quote="MGibster" data-source="post: 8109640" data-attributes="member: 4534"><p>How do you measure success for a musician? If we used Beyoncé as our standard for what it means to be a successful musician, then we're left with many others who are by definition unsuccessful. She's not a good rubric to measure success with. D&D is our Beyoncé. No other game that has been produced in the history of RPGs has achieved penetration into the mainstream like D&D has. Vampire came pretty close in the 1990s though. I'm with team <strong>Aldarc</strong> when it comes to leaving D&D out of this discussion. Almost every game we can compare to D&D will show as lacking.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's fair. Flea, bassist for the Red Hot Chili Peppers, can no doubt name many bassist who influenced him that would be unknown to most fans. H.P. Lovecraft influenced author's including Neil Gaiman and Stephen King, but Lovecraft's audience during his lifetime was very small and even today it's a niche one. </p><p></p><p>I've only played one campaign of <em>Apocalypse World</em> and that was many years ago. Like those people who are fans of Flea, I'm not quiet sure if or how AW has influenced gaming in the last few years. I'm not sure what influence AW has had on games released since 2010. Like Burning Wheel, AW is one of those games that people talked a ton about when it was released but these days I don't see anyone talking about it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's a solid design. I wish more games would create rules with a specific mind to reflect what they want to see in the setting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MGibster, post: 8109640, member: 4534"] How do you measure success for a musician? If we used Beyoncé as our standard for what it means to be a successful musician, then we're left with many others who are by definition unsuccessful. She's not a good rubric to measure success with. D&D is our Beyoncé. No other game that has been produced in the history of RPGs has achieved penetration into the mainstream like D&D has. Vampire came pretty close in the 1990s though. I'm with team [B]Aldarc[/B] when it comes to leaving D&D out of this discussion. Almost every game we can compare to D&D will show as lacking. That's fair. Flea, bassist for the Red Hot Chili Peppers, can no doubt name many bassist who influenced him that would be unknown to most fans. H.P. Lovecraft influenced author's including Neil Gaiman and Stephen King, but Lovecraft's audience during his lifetime was very small and even today it's a niche one. I've only played one campaign of [I]Apocalypse World[/I] and that was many years ago. Like those people who are fans of Flea, I'm not quiet sure if or how AW has influenced gaming in the last few years. I'm not sure what influence AW has had on games released since 2010. Like Burning Wheel, AW is one of those games that people talked a ton about when it was released but these days I don't see anyone talking about it. It's a solid design. I wish more games would create rules with a specific mind to reflect what they want to see in the setting. [/QUOTE]
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