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<blockquote data-quote="devilbat" data-source="post: 1761507" data-attributes="member: 20624">Noooooo, but in my neck of the woods we don't forget about that cute little trick many players utilize to get around a contract, called &quot;holding out&quot;.&nbsp; Remember Pavel Bure with the Cunucks?&nbsp; He still had years left on his exsisting contract.&nbsp; He was making plenty of money, the fans loved him, the toast of British Columbia.&nbsp; What did he do?&nbsp; Oh yeah, held out until traded.&nbsp; Nobody should kid themselves to believing that the players would continue to play without a Collective Bargaining Agreement.&nbsp; If the owners didn't lock them out, they would be striking.Oh yes, the owners did agree to pay these guys, and they should be held ultimately responsible for the state of the game.&nbsp; BUT, they own the teams.&nbsp; If they want to change things, they should be able to.&nbsp; If players don't like it, they should go to Sweden, Finalnd, Russia or anywhere else they have a pro league.&nbsp; But wait, the owners can't get together and agree to change the way they do things, because that would be collusion.&nbsp; Remember what happened in Baseball with that C word.Anyway, the cracks are starting to show.&nbsp; John Madden of the Devils was quoted in a New Jersey newspaper saying that he would agree to a salary cap, if thats what it took to get the season underway.GO OWNERS!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="devilbat, post: 1761507, member: 20624"] Noooooo, but in my neck of the woods we don't forget about that cute little trick many players utilize to get around a contract, called "holding out". Remember Pavel Bure with the Cunucks? He still had years left on his exsisting contract. He was making plenty of money, the fans loved him, the toast of British Columbia. What did he do? Oh yeah, held out until traded. Nobody should kid themselves to believing that the players would continue to play without a Collective Bargaining Agreement. If the owners didn't lock them out, they would be striking. Oh yes, the owners did agree to pay these guys, and they should be held ultimately responsible for the state of the game. BUT, they own the teams. If they want to change things, they should be able to. If players don't like it, they should go to Sweden, Finalnd, Russia or anywhere else they have a pro league. But wait, the owners can't get together and agree to change the way they do things, because that would be collusion. Remember what happened in Baseball with that C word. Anyway, the cracks are starting to show. John Madden of the Devils was quoted in a New Jersey newspaper saying that he would agree to a salary cap, if thats what it took to get the season underway. GO OWNERS! [/QUOTE]

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