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<blockquote data-quote="Nifft" data-source="post: 3322321" data-attributes="member: 6562"><p>Think of it as modifying the Dodge feat instead of being two separate bonuses.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Compare with Monk -- the potential bonus from Wisdom is unlimited. This bonus is strictly capped, and severely limited in its application. Does no good against Invisible foes, against foes who Feint you, or against foes who use ranged attacks.</p><p></p><p>Swordsage gets Wis to AC when in Light armor, and I consider this to be similarly strong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's most of your money (for that level) spent on your AC. If you didn't have a +10 bonus to your AC, you'd have to wear significantly heavier armor to get a similar AC. (Mithral fullplate gives a +4, mithral tower shield gives another +3, but Dex is reduced to 14, for a total of +36, <u>against all opponents</u>. This class is better than the alternative when facing one opponent, but worse when fighting many.)</p><p></p><p>- - -</p><p></p><p>The trick to this guy is: 4 PCs vs. one opponent usually equals one <u>quick</u> fight. So I don't mind giving a huge bonus against one opponent. If the PCs are outnumbered, this guy is not going to shine as brightly, but they would have had a tougher fight anyway.</p><p></p><p>Considering all the Fort and Will bonuses that a Barbarian gets, I think he actually looks rather fragile... sure, he's got a great AC vs. one melee opponent, but that is really his whole point. He's highly specialized. Against attacks that don't target his AC, he's not great.</p><p></p><p>In that light, what do you think?</p><p></p><p>Thanks, -- N</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nifft, post: 3322321, member: 6562"] Think of it as modifying the Dodge feat instead of being two separate bonuses. Compare with Monk -- the potential bonus from Wisdom is unlimited. This bonus is strictly capped, and severely limited in its application. Does no good against Invisible foes, against foes who Feint you, or against foes who use ranged attacks. Swordsage gets Wis to AC when in Light armor, and I consider this to be similarly strong. That's most of your money (for that level) spent on your AC. If you didn't have a +10 bonus to your AC, you'd have to wear significantly heavier armor to get a similar AC. (Mithral fullplate gives a +4, mithral tower shield gives another +3, but Dex is reduced to 14, for a total of +36, [u]against all opponents[/u]. This class is better than the alternative when facing one opponent, but worse when fighting many.) - - - The trick to this guy is: 4 PCs vs. one opponent usually equals one [u]quick[/u] fight. So I don't mind giving a huge bonus against one opponent. If the PCs are outnumbered, this guy is not going to shine as brightly, but they would have had a tougher fight anyway. Considering all the Fort and Will bonuses that a Barbarian gets, I think he actually looks rather fragile... sure, he's got a great AC vs. one melee opponent, but that is really his whole point. He's highly specialized. Against attacks that don't target his AC, he's not great. In that light, what do you think? Thanks, -- N [/QUOTE]
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