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<blockquote data-quote="useridunavailable" data-source="post: 4473116" data-attributes="member: 53676"><p>The problem is that by the same token, if you have a reasonable DM, the same would necessarily apply to the Sleep spell, which at least WotC customer service has indicated on multiple occasions it <strong>does not</strong>. By the wording of the respective powers, it has to be one way or the other. The designers/developers have stated that the Sleep spell is supposed to be powerful, which in my estimation it would not be at all if such were possible.</p><p></p><p>Page 263 of the PHB only applies to sleeping characters. If the Sleep spell and the Wave of Sleep power intended for it to apply, they should state "the target falls asleep" and not "the target falls unconscious". The sleeping state is a subset of the unconscious condition to which the rules on page 263 apply - not the other way around.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="useridunavailable, post: 4473116, member: 53676"] The problem is that by the same token, if you have a reasonable DM, the same would necessarily apply to the Sleep spell, which at least WotC customer service has indicated on multiple occasions it [b]does not[/b]. By the wording of the respective powers, it has to be one way or the other. The designers/developers have stated that the Sleep spell is supposed to be powerful, which in my estimation it would not be at all if such were possible. Page 263 of the PHB only applies to sleeping characters. If the Sleep spell and the Wave of Sleep power intended for it to apply, they should state "the target falls asleep" and not "the target falls unconscious". The sleeping state is a subset of the unconscious condition to which the rules on page 263 apply - not the other way around. [/QUOTE]
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