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<blockquote data-quote="useridunavailable" data-source="post: 4473330" data-attributes="member: 53676"><p>While this does help to mitigate the Dream Haunting power, it still doesn't solve the problem that the only way to wake a character affected by Wave of Sleep is still to kill and then raise him or her. My point is basically this: there is obviously a misprint involved, whether it be the "no save" clause, some omission such as "until the end of the encounter," or something else entirely. I just wanted to find out if I was missing something which, by RAW, made the power more reasonable. Apparently I'm not - all proposed solutions involve the inference of RAI, which can involve a multitude of different approaches under the reasonable person standard.</p><p></p><p>The main problem is that our DM, although he does agree that something is terribly wrong with the wording of Wave of Sleep, is so complacent in his glee over discovering such a wicked and nasty trick to pull on the PCs that he's reluctant to make a compromise that reflects what I (and apparently many of you) see as even close to the actual RAI. In such a case, official errata is really a requirement for any modicum of fun to continue to exist in our group. I really can't blame the DM - we tend to powergame against him quite a bit, and he's merely trying to respond in kind, which in most cases we all see as both fun and fair. He saw the discovery as very clever, and I tend to agree, but he seems incapable of making an unbiased ruling on the issue. What really bothers me is that this will probably not be the last such hangup. WotC is, in my experience, as slow about officially correcting such errors as they are prolific in making them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="useridunavailable, post: 4473330, member: 53676"] While this does help to mitigate the Dream Haunting power, it still doesn't solve the problem that the only way to wake a character affected by Wave of Sleep is still to kill and then raise him or her. My point is basically this: there is obviously a misprint involved, whether it be the "no save" clause, some omission such as "until the end of the encounter," or something else entirely. I just wanted to find out if I was missing something which, by RAW, made the power more reasonable. Apparently I'm not - all proposed solutions involve the inference of RAI, which can involve a multitude of different approaches under the reasonable person standard. The main problem is that our DM, although he does agree that something is terribly wrong with the wording of Wave of Sleep, is so complacent in his glee over discovering such a wicked and nasty trick to pull on the PCs that he's reluctant to make a compromise that reflects what I (and apparently many of you) see as even close to the actual RAI. In such a case, official errata is really a requirement for any modicum of fun to continue to exist in our group. I really can't blame the DM - we tend to powergame against him quite a bit, and he's merely trying to respond in kind, which in most cases we all see as both fun and fair. He saw the discovery as very clever, and I tend to agree, but he seems incapable of making an unbiased ruling on the issue. What really bothers me is that this will probably not be the last such hangup. WotC is, in my experience, as slow about officially correcting such errors as they are prolific in making them. [/QUOTE]
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