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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 1340690" data-attributes="member: 1210"><p>I set the base DC at -10, so as long as you're within 10' of the battle you end up needing a DC 0 Listen check to wake- easy as long as you don't have any penalties.</p><p></p><p>Add 1 to the DC per 10' of distance and things might start to change- if the watch is foolish enough to stray far from camp and get into trouble, well, they might not be able to wake up other party members.</p><p></p><p>A game I played in had one pc we nicknamed "Sleepy McUseless" because he kept sleeping through 1-3 rounds of battle at night! (Even using a fairly generous set of Listen DCs...)</p><p></p><p>Finally- not to stray too far into HR territory- here's a custom feat to address this:</p><p></p><p><strong>LIGHT SLEEPER (General)</strong></p><p>You don’t need much sleep and are much more flexible about your sleep cycle than most people.</p><p><strong>Prerequisites:</strong> Con 11+, Wis 11+, Endurance</p><p><strong>Benefit:</strong> You only need ¾ the normal amount of sleep for your race. You can also spread your sleep out into blocks throughout the day rather than needing uninterrupted rest. You can sleep despite noise or physical discomfort but even while asleep your subconscious remains alert for danger, making any listen checks normally (with no circumstance penalty for being asleep).</p><p><strong>Special:</strong> Elves cannot take this feat as they do not sleep.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 1340690, member: 1210"] I set the base DC at -10, so as long as you're within 10' of the battle you end up needing a DC 0 Listen check to wake- easy as long as you don't have any penalties. Add 1 to the DC per 10' of distance and things might start to change- if the watch is foolish enough to stray far from camp and get into trouble, well, they might not be able to wake up other party members. A game I played in had one pc we nicknamed "Sleepy McUseless" because he kept sleeping through 1-3 rounds of battle at night! (Even using a fairly generous set of Listen DCs...) Finally- not to stray too far into HR territory- here's a custom feat to address this: [b]LIGHT SLEEPER (General)[/b] You don’t need much sleep and are much more flexible about your sleep cycle than most people. [b]Prerequisites:[/b] Con 11+, Wis 11+, Endurance [b]Benefit:[/b] You only need ¾ the normal amount of sleep for your race. You can also spread your sleep out into blocks throughout the day rather than needing uninterrupted rest. You can sleep despite noise or physical discomfort but even while asleep your subconscious remains alert for danger, making any listen checks normally (with no circumstance penalty for being asleep). [b]Special:[/b] Elves cannot take this feat as they do not sleep. [/QUOTE]
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