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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 4856734" data-attributes="member: 29398">Another thought just occurred to me: We all know the current game owners (WotC, of late) watch this site and others as a gauge on how the more loyal fans of the game see said game in its past, present, and future.  Well, if we can't discuss its future and by extension tell them what we'd like to see (and thus become/remain loyal to), are we not doing them a dis-service?By the same token, this also validates expression of the opinion "No 5e at all, please", along with "Things are fine as they are now" and "Things were fine as they were at time x and since then have deteriorated".And, FWIW, while someone earlier suggested framing discussions in non-D+D terms, I - and I'll go out on a limb here and say I expect many others - assume any and all discussions here are about D+D specifically (whatever editions) unless clearly labelled otherwise; as this is a D+D forum.  Thus, when discussing new ideas, changes, developments, or whatever, we are talking about the future of *D+D*.  And if the game *is* to change and develop (a safe assumption, I think), then that future lies either in significant refinements to 4e, or in some sort of 5e.You sure about that? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Lan-"I've lost count of what edition my game is up to"-efan</blockquote>

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