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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nellisir" data-source="post: 3072877" data-attributes="member: 70">That'd be +10, yes.Yes, exactly.  And they could swap up to 2 points from other abilities (giving them two scores at -1 or one at -2).  It seems to work well.   Sure, you can make a rocking dwarf fighter with Str +4, Dex +3, Con +4, Int +0, Wis +0, Cha -3 -- but it's not that hard to roll with the more flexible rolling methods (Str 18, Dex 16, Con 16 plus racial, Int 10, Wis 10, Cha 7 minus racial).  You can always cap penalties at -2, or allow only one ability at +4 or higher for a starting character.Honestly?  Because they were just gaining 4th level when we switched.  It was simpler than listening to the crying.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> No, never.  Eventually this would overbalance the normal progression, but you could just as easily set the increase to one per 8 levels.  And by epic levels, I'm not sure it really makes a difference.Yeah, I just feel bad rounding up when it inflicts a penalty.  But I usually do anyways.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> You're welcome.  It's fairly ad-hoc at the moment; I've found my True20 book but not referenced it.  We're on a break from the game for a few weeks (I'm taking a masters-level class in town planning, plus a birthing class, plus taking the dogs to agility class while my wife is busy coaching volleyball, plus trying to clean & finish the house), and formulating rules is on the list of things to do.CheersNell.</blockquote>

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