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No AoO w/o Combat Reflexes?
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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 4954114" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>It means that PCs/creatures threatened by multiple foes are unlikely to take AoOs. </p><p></p><p>Wolf packing therefore means it is less dangerous to do AoO provoking maneuvers. </p><p></p><p>Also that you can strategically try to bait someone into taking an AoO you provoke so that your comrades dog pile the counter AoOs against them.</p><p></p><p>Reach will still be used to threaten those trying to charging in. This will stop after the first combatants close. Tip of the spear lead charger still is a dangerous position.</p><p></p><p>No impact on one on one fights unless you can counter AoO your attacker with combat reflexes.</p><p></p><p>If combat reflexes lets you counter AoO those who strike at you, you have more incentive to do maneuvers that provoke AoOs (including taking AoOs). </p><p></p><p>Consider a monster with Combat Reflexes wolf packed by three characters. One PC provokes an AoO. The monster takes the AoO and strikes the PC provoking AoOs from the other two. The others take the AoOs on the monster each provoking one from it as well. It then strikes both of them with its extra AoOs provoking AoOs from the original PC. It turns out to be equal number of blows on both sides unless the monster runs out of CR AoOs or the PCs have CR as well in which case it leans towards favoring the PCs.</p><p></p><p>Often a monster will not get in an equal number of attacks against PCs swarming it in a round, so one for one attacks can be a good trade off.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 4954114, member: 2209"] It means that PCs/creatures threatened by multiple foes are unlikely to take AoOs. Wolf packing therefore means it is less dangerous to do AoO provoking maneuvers. Also that you can strategically try to bait someone into taking an AoO you provoke so that your comrades dog pile the counter AoOs against them. Reach will still be used to threaten those trying to charging in. This will stop after the first combatants close. Tip of the spear lead charger still is a dangerous position. No impact on one on one fights unless you can counter AoO your attacker with combat reflexes. If combat reflexes lets you counter AoO those who strike at you, you have more incentive to do maneuvers that provoke AoOs (including taking AoOs). Consider a monster with Combat Reflexes wolf packed by three characters. One PC provokes an AoO. The monster takes the AoO and strikes the PC provoking AoOs from the other two. The others take the AoOs on the monster each provoking one from it as well. It then strikes both of them with its extra AoOs provoking AoOs from the original PC. It turns out to be equal number of blows on both sides unless the monster runs out of CR AoOs or the PCs have CR as well in which case it leans towards favoring the PCs. Often a monster will not get in an equal number of attacks against PCs swarming it in a round, so one for one attacks can be a good trade off. [/QUOTE]
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