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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Skyscraper" data-source="post: 5782775" data-attributes="member: 48518">Sure, scaling values are found in pretty much every RPG. However, in 4E, too many things scale. Whereas in many other RPGs, you have some things that remain static, and others that scale, and suddenly those things that scale have value.Take a sill system where the PC skill modifiers scale (as in 4E). You then have 2 possible scenarios with DCs:1) DCs also scale, as in 4E, where a "hard" skill check requires the same d20 roll by the PC notwithstanding his level.2) DCs are absolute, so you have for example a table with set DC values.In AD&D, you had armor class values that didn't scale with PC levels. Likewise in 3E IIRC, although your magic and ability score increase did bump it up. (Man, I haven't touched 3E for a while!)What I'm saying is that I find that too many things scale in 4E. I'm not saying that nothing should scale. For example, scaling health/damage and static defenses/attack value is one thing to explore.</blockquote>