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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Stew" data-source="post: 6268459" data-attributes="member: 23484"><p>Not Joking -- </p><p></p><p>As I read the rules, Read Magic is the only way you can add to your spell book apart from level advancement. </p><p></p><p>If you want to add a spell from another caster, you need to be able to read the magic (we can ignore the meaningless fluff about secret alphabets) -- Classes p. 31</p><p></p><p>If you want to add a spell from a scroll (reading the scroll without activating the magic), you need to be able to read magic -- magic items p. 19</p><p></p><p>(The spell also allows magic runes, etc. to be identified; that's a third use called out in the spell description -- spells p. 44-45, as a supplement to Comprehend languages (explicitly at spells p. 14))</p><p></p><p>I'll add that I think this is a crazy set of rules that could be avoided, and that they could be presented much more clearly, but if this is not the intention, then the above passages are nonsensical. </p><p></p><p>If a caster does not choose read magic as a cantrip, then the only way to expand the spell book is through level advancement. That, of course, will be a straightforward choice for many players who don't want to play the mini-game of building up your spell book; and it's a completely legit choice. </p><p></p><p>I'll also point out two further problems:</p><p></p><p>1. Spellbooks contain cantrips. Because cantrips are at-will, Read Magic is the only limit on spell casters rapidly expanding their cantrip list *all* cantrips. That for me is not desirable, but it is the only limit. If the above reading is wrong, then every mage should be able to cast all cantrips trivially if they ever had any friends. </p><p></p><p>2. Bards and Druids also have read magic on their lists. Clerics don't. It is a much weaker choice for these classes, since they lack a spell book.</p><p></p><p>Hope this helps.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kobold Stew, post: 6268459, member: 23484"] Not Joking -- As I read the rules, Read Magic is the only way you can add to your spell book apart from level advancement. If you want to add a spell from another caster, you need to be able to read the magic (we can ignore the meaningless fluff about secret alphabets) -- Classes p. 31 If you want to add a spell from a scroll (reading the scroll without activating the magic), you need to be able to read magic -- magic items p. 19 (The spell also allows magic runes, etc. to be identified; that's a third use called out in the spell description -- spells p. 44-45, as a supplement to Comprehend languages (explicitly at spells p. 14)) I'll add that I think this is a crazy set of rules that could be avoided, and that they could be presented much more clearly, but if this is not the intention, then the above passages are nonsensical. If a caster does not choose read magic as a cantrip, then the only way to expand the spell book is through level advancement. That, of course, will be a straightforward choice for many players who don't want to play the mini-game of building up your spell book; and it's a completely legit choice. I'll also point out two further problems: 1. Spellbooks contain cantrips. Because cantrips are at-will, Read Magic is the only limit on spell casters rapidly expanding their cantrip list *all* cantrips. That for me is not desirable, but it is the only limit. If the above reading is wrong, then every mage should be able to cast all cantrips trivially if they ever had any friends. 2. Bards and Druids also have read magic on their lists. Clerics don't. It is a much weaker choice for these classes, since they lack a spell book. Hope this helps. [/QUOTE]
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