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<blockquote data-quote="Mengu" data-source="post: 5321263" data-attributes="member: 65726"><p>I was as hyped about the update this month as everyone else, but the delay doesn't come as a surprise.</p><p></p><p>Essentials and Dark Sun both require massive changes to the CB. Their dev cycles are based on pushing a certain amount of updates, they can handle a book and a magazine every month.</p><p></p><p>But for this month, even the extra 2 weeks obviously didn't cut it. It's a classic case of expectation vs reality. For this update they not only need to add content, which usually isn't as big a deal since each new feat or power is normally fairly self contained, but they have to change the way classes work.</p><p></p><p>Dark Sun themes are a new mechanic, equipment from Dark Sun alone is like adding in a new AV. Some races already had optional mechanics so adding the new racial options from E# shouldn't be a big deal. There will be a lot of maintenance and clean up for all the wizard powers that changed, and all the feats that changed. This part is like a massive errata update. Then there is all the new E# class mechanics, removal of powers, etc. And then rules have to be established for multiclass power swap feats that work differently for these new builds, not only with your typical multiclass, but also with the a-typical and obscure bloodline power swaps such as Bogtangle Warrior.</p><p></p><p>Getting all this squared away in 4 or even 6 months, is not that feasible. How much we pay WotC doesn't really matter in this case because regardless of how much man-power you throw at it, an increase in project scope like this will take time.</p><p></p><p>On the business end, they should be giving next month's DDI subscription free for those who had subscribed this month. I know people who subscribe for a month every now and then. For those monthly subscribers who based their decision to subscribe for September since they knew Dark Sun and Essentials material would be in CB, it's a rather frustrating let down because now, not only do they not get what they thought they would, but they have to subscribe another month to actually get the content that was promised. This free extension shouldn't even require an email to support.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mengu, post: 5321263, member: 65726"] I was as hyped about the update this month as everyone else, but the delay doesn't come as a surprise. Essentials and Dark Sun both require massive changes to the CB. Their dev cycles are based on pushing a certain amount of updates, they can handle a book and a magazine every month. But for this month, even the extra 2 weeks obviously didn't cut it. It's a classic case of expectation vs reality. For this update they not only need to add content, which usually isn't as big a deal since each new feat or power is normally fairly self contained, but they have to change the way classes work. Dark Sun themes are a new mechanic, equipment from Dark Sun alone is like adding in a new AV. Some races already had optional mechanics so adding the new racial options from E# shouldn't be a big deal. There will be a lot of maintenance and clean up for all the wizard powers that changed, and all the feats that changed. This part is like a massive errata update. Then there is all the new E# class mechanics, removal of powers, etc. And then rules have to be established for multiclass power swap feats that work differently for these new builds, not only with your typical multiclass, but also with the a-typical and obscure bloodline power swaps such as Bogtangle Warrior. Getting all this squared away in 4 or even 6 months, is not that feasible. How much we pay WotC doesn't really matter in this case because regardless of how much man-power you throw at it, an increase in project scope like this will take time. On the business end, they should be giving next month's DDI subscription free for those who had subscribed this month. I know people who subscribe for a month every now and then. For those monthly subscribers who based their decision to subscribe for September since they knew Dark Sun and Essentials material would be in CB, it's a rather frustrating let down because now, not only do they not get what they thought they would, but they have to subscribe another month to actually get the content that was promised. This free extension shouldn't even require an email to support. [/QUOTE]
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