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<blockquote data-quote="knifie_sp00nie" data-source="post: 5321544" data-attributes="member: 62610"><p>Right. WotC is a corporation that makes a product and we are consumers and not friends. I can stop giving them money if I don't feel like I'm getting a good value or they are acting in bad faith.</p><p></p><p>At the same time, how many other corporations of any decent size have employees interact with the customers as directly as WotC? Mike Mearls is someone I've never met, but he's still a person with a day job. We may think it's the greatest job in the world, but it's still work. There are deadlines and problems like any other job as well as a personal life to deal with. </p><p></p><p>How do you think it feels to be in that office right now? Nobody wants things to be delayed. They've been working their butts off for months to get Essentials done, and who knows what pressured them into creating it in the first place. Whatever it was, it wasn't some conspiracy to make you irate.</p><p></p><p>I'm also tired of hearing that it's "just the internet and I'm venting" from all the internet tough-guys. There's lots of behaviors that used to be acceptable (they're only slaves) that we don't tolerate today. The culture was altered because one group of people called out the other on their brutishness. Would you actually read some of these posts to the people at Wizards if you were looking them in the face? </p><p></p><p>So yeah, corporations aren't people. Most corps don't pretend to be people (legal status aside) or even pretend to care. We've seen the authors respond personally here and on other message boards. Would you rather read some lip service reply written by a marketer and a lawyer via a twitter post like other corps give you?</p><p></p><p>It's good to be a knowledgeable consumer and not be taken advantage of by a company operating in bad faith. Have some perspective though. Consider how many people there are working at WotC and just how few gamers there really are compared to something like iPhone owners and employees at Apple. Even Steve Jobs slips up and has to delay a release from time to time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="knifie_sp00nie, post: 5321544, member: 62610"] Right. WotC is a corporation that makes a product and we are consumers and not friends. I can stop giving them money if I don't feel like I'm getting a good value or they are acting in bad faith. At the same time, how many other corporations of any decent size have employees interact with the customers as directly as WotC? Mike Mearls is someone I've never met, but he's still a person with a day job. We may think it's the greatest job in the world, but it's still work. There are deadlines and problems like any other job as well as a personal life to deal with. How do you think it feels to be in that office right now? Nobody wants things to be delayed. They've been working their butts off for months to get Essentials done, and who knows what pressured them into creating it in the first place. Whatever it was, it wasn't some conspiracy to make you irate. I'm also tired of hearing that it's "just the internet and I'm venting" from all the internet tough-guys. There's lots of behaviors that used to be acceptable (they're only slaves) that we don't tolerate today. The culture was altered because one group of people called out the other on their brutishness. Would you actually read some of these posts to the people at Wizards if you were looking them in the face? So yeah, corporations aren't people. Most corps don't pretend to be people (legal status aside) or even pretend to care. We've seen the authors respond personally here and on other message boards. Would you rather read some lip service reply written by a marketer and a lawyer via a twitter post like other corps give you? It's good to be a knowledgeable consumer and not be taken advantage of by a company operating in bad faith. Have some perspective though. Consider how many people there are working at WotC and just how few gamers there really are compared to something like iPhone owners and employees at Apple. Even Steve Jobs slips up and has to delay a release from time to time. [/QUOTE]
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