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<blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5412237" data-attributes="member: 61155"><p>It's a tricky question, and there is no one formula that will be entirely consistent. Partly because 4E made a number of choices about what enemies you should fight where, and so level is often defined by what is appropriate, as opposed to what special abilities or how many HD a monster needs to have. </p><p> </p><p>In some cases, stuff from the top of the 'standard progression' (level 20) like Balors has instead moved to near the top of the 4E epic tier. But at the same time, you also have Gods and other truly epic foes at around those levels - who would have been also level 30 in 3.5, if not even higher. </p><p> </p><p>As a general rule, you can probably try to convert along the apropriate ratio, but I'd instead try and figure out where in the tiers you feel a monster is most appropriate. Extraplanar enemies are probably in the Paragon or Epic tiers. Humanoid foes might typically be Heroic enemies (though individual ones could, of course, be any level.) If there are existing 4E monsters of the type you are converting, check what levels they tend to be, and use that as a starting point.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrMyth, post: 5412237, member: 61155"] It's a tricky question, and there is no one formula that will be entirely consistent. Partly because 4E made a number of choices about what enemies you should fight where, and so level is often defined by what is appropriate, as opposed to what special abilities or how many HD a monster needs to have. In some cases, stuff from the top of the 'standard progression' (level 20) like Balors has instead moved to near the top of the 4E epic tier. But at the same time, you also have Gods and other truly epic foes at around those levels - who would have been also level 30 in 3.5, if not even higher. As a general rule, you can probably try to convert along the apropriate ratio, but I'd instead try and figure out where in the tiers you feel a monster is most appropriate. Extraplanar enemies are probably in the Paragon or Epic tiers. Humanoid foes might typically be Heroic enemies (though individual ones could, of course, be any level.) If there are existing 4E monsters of the type you are converting, check what levels they tend to be, and use that as a starting point. [/QUOTE]
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