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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngainlyTitan" data-source="post: 5251845" data-attributes="member: 28487">@AllNamesRTaken  some further thoughts:I  just want to clarify what your objectives are;It would appear to me that you want to recreate thet resource management of earlier games of D&D with respect to healing. In those games hit point were lost in a combat and healing magic was applied to restore them. Typically the party takes an extended rest when they run out/low on the healing magic. Now leaving aside the cases of wands in 3.x that made healing magic effectivly infinite, that resource limiter was the cleric and how many spells he has.The problem with applying that to 4e are; the pure healing spells are daillies and most other in combat healing comes from combat spells that hit the enemy and allow someone to spend a healing surge.So at the end of the frst fight it is likely that  several characters are down more than a surge worth of hit points and there are no resources to bring them up to full.If any daillies are left say they are used to top up the worst affected.In this fight there are no dailies and the pcs have to save their second wind in case they are knocked to 0 and someone now has to heal check to trigger that second wind to get them back on their feet since the daillies are gone.They are not going to survive a third fight against anything other than all minions. At 2 surges per daily and may be 4 surges of hp loss per PC it is going to take 8 to 10 days to get them back to fresh?Is this what you want?</blockquote>

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