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No ECL in the SRD. Why are d20 publishers able to use it?
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<blockquote data-quote="rpgHQ" data-source="post: 946525" data-attributes="member: 12219"><p>How can a license of this type even be enforceable then if it trumps copyright, trademark, and patent laws? How can a document of this type give you rights and title to something that you did not have rights and title for to begin with?</p><p></p><p>There is a small number of items listed under the definition of PI that actually 95% of the time one can not claim right and title to under copyright, trademark, or patent law. </p><p></p><p>Dont get me wrong, overall the OGL is great, especially for those companies wishing to use the d20stl (use the d20 logo and all that). </p><p></p><p>I just think the wording of the OGL needs redone, most specifically section 1, in that it needs to clearly and in simple language define what is copyright, trademark, and patent instead of trying to muddle and misinform as parts of section 1 currently do. Especially parts 1d and 1e.</p><p></p><p>So to sum it up thats my only real issue with the OGL in that its wording implies rights and title to a very small number of things one would not have rights and title for to begin with.</p><p></p><p>So for myself the misinformation begins with the wording in the OGL itself, especially parts 1d and 1e which technically puts itself into a loop. you know: Item A is this except where it is defined by Item B as thus and Item B is this except where it is defined by Item A as thus. Well for a few things that causes a loop bouncing back and forth in the OGL. Why? Becuase they have decided to define a small number of things that fall under a minority(5% of the time) ability to hold copyright or trademark on and lumped it in with what falls under the majority(95% of the time) ability to hold copyright and/or trademark on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rpgHQ, post: 946525, member: 12219"] How can a license of this type even be enforceable then if it trumps copyright, trademark, and patent laws? How can a document of this type give you rights and title to something that you did not have rights and title for to begin with? There is a small number of items listed under the definition of PI that actually 95% of the time one can not claim right and title to under copyright, trademark, or patent law. Dont get me wrong, overall the OGL is great, especially for those companies wishing to use the d20stl (use the d20 logo and all that). I just think the wording of the OGL needs redone, most specifically section 1, in that it needs to clearly and in simple language define what is copyright, trademark, and patent instead of trying to muddle and misinform as parts of section 1 currently do. Especially parts 1d and 1e. So to sum it up thats my only real issue with the OGL in that its wording implies rights and title to a very small number of things one would not have rights and title for to begin with. So for myself the misinformation begins with the wording in the OGL itself, especially parts 1d and 1e which technically puts itself into a loop. you know: Item A is this except where it is defined by Item B as thus and Item B is this except where it is defined by Item A as thus. Well for a few things that causes a loop bouncing back and forth in the OGL. Why? Becuase they have decided to define a small number of things that fall under a minority(5% of the time) ability to hold copyright or trademark on and lumped it in with what falls under the majority(95% of the time) ability to hold copyright and/or trademark on. [/QUOTE]
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