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No ECL in the SRD. Why are d20 publishers able to use it?
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<blockquote data-quote="rpgHQ" data-source="post: 951785" data-attributes="member: 12219"><p>The things in particular that The PI definition in the OGL doesnt completely jive with is these parts from above:</p><p></p><p>Copyright protects only the particular manner of an author’s expression in literary, artistic, or musical form. Copyright protection does not extend to any idea, system, method, device, or trademark material involved in the development, merchandising, or playing of a game. Once a game has been made public, nothing in the copyright law prevents others from developing another game based on similar principles....</p><p></p><p>and more importantly:</p><p></p><p>Titles, names, short phrases, and slogans....</p><p></p><p>...Ideas, procedures, methods, systems, processes, concepts, principles, discoveries, or devices, as distinguished from a description, explanation, or illustration....</p><p></p><p></p><p>Anyhow names, titles, slogans, short phrases are not covered by copyright, you can trademark them under certain conditions though, which is based on how the name, title, slogan is being used. service mark. </p><p></p><p>So things like ECL and its concept and method are not copyrightable either, nor is a monsters name or a spell name or DC or AC and so on and so forth. Nor can they be called service marks so they cant be trademark protected. </p><p></p><p>Elminster the Sage, Elminster of Shadowdale can be trademarked as the use of the name falls under the definitions of what a trade and service mark is. </p><p></p><p>A spell , its name and the concept of what it is isnt copyrightable....the description a publisher uses to explain the concept is though, however with a game system derivative work doesnt fall into the equation when someone else publishes the same spell and their description is worded differently though saying the same thng.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rpgHQ, post: 951785, member: 12219"] The things in particular that The PI definition in the OGL doesnt completely jive with is these parts from above: Copyright protects only the particular manner of an author’s expression in literary, artistic, or musical form. Copyright protection does not extend to any idea, system, method, device, or trademark material involved in the development, merchandising, or playing of a game. Once a game has been made public, nothing in the copyright law prevents others from developing another game based on similar principles.... and more importantly: Titles, names, short phrases, and slogans.... ...Ideas, procedures, methods, systems, processes, concepts, principles, discoveries, or devices, as distinguished from a description, explanation, or illustration.... Anyhow names, titles, slogans, short phrases are not covered by copyright, you can trademark them under certain conditions though, which is based on how the name, title, slogan is being used. service mark. So things like ECL and its concept and method are not copyrightable either, nor is a monsters name or a spell name or DC or AC and so on and so forth. Nor can they be called service marks so they cant be trademark protected. Elminster the Sage, Elminster of Shadowdale can be trademarked as the use of the name falls under the definitions of what a trade and service mark is. A spell , its name and the concept of what it is isnt copyrightable....the description a publisher uses to explain the concept is though, however with a game system derivative work doesnt fall into the equation when someone else publishes the same spell and their description is worded differently though saying the same thng. [/QUOTE]
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