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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rpgHQ" data-source="post: 970692" data-attributes="member: 12219">HEres a break down of what I was trying to get at here and int he monster PI threads:The guy in thge monster name as PI thread mentions only using the monster names. Well if the only thing he is taking from that resource is the monster names he doesnt need to include an OGC/OGL referance statement about said product. He doesnt have to use the OGL period just to use the monster name. The only thing he has to worry about is if the monster name is a specific entities name, like 'Dritzz Do'Urden'. However if he is reprinting the descriptive text of the monsters or using anything else from that resource that is copyrightable/trademarkable he needs to use the OGC/OGL and is then limited in what he can use without getting specific permission.As for this thread and ECL. One does not need to use the OGL for any of thne game system stuff. You dont need to make a OGC/OGL referance statement to the SRD if your not using any of the descriptive text.  Doesnt matter if the term ECL or Armor Class or whatever is in the SRD or not, its part of the definition under copyright law that defines what makes up a game and has such it is public domain, derivative work and such things dont come into play for anything dealing with the game mechanics or the terms/concepts used. If you reprinted any of the descriptive text and explanations from the SRD then you would have to include a OGC/OGL statement.We ended up hijacking the original posters thread here but I think the talk here in the end though as led to clarifying many things.   You dont need the OGL to publilsh a d20 based game resource, you do need it to reprint descriptive text from the SRD or another publishers work (if they OGC'd it that is) and of course theres the d20stl and if you use it then you have to abide by it, the d20 system guide and OGL, which means by default the only pre-existing WotC d20 game rules you are going to use come from the two SRD's.</blockquote>

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