Pathfinder 1E No Eidolon Flyer Base Form?

knottyprof

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Does anyone know of a non official attempt to make a flyer base form for an Eidolon anywhere on the net?
I want to make a Demonic Vulture looking Eidolon for an Ogre Summoner and going with the base forms that are out there my options are either biped or make up my own (which as the DM I guess that is my prerogative) but I was hoping for find something where someone else already thought out.
I am thinking it would have Dex for its high score, Good reflex saves and start out with Wings, Limbs (legs) and Wing Buffet for free evolutions.

Size: Medium, Speed: 40' flight/20' walking, AC: +2 natural, Saves: Fort (bad) Reflex (good) Will (good), Attacks: Wing Buffet (1d4), Ability Scores: Str 12, Dex 16, Con 13, Int 7, Wis 10, Cha 11
Free Evolutions: Flight(Wings)*, Limbs (legs), Wing Buffet
*This evolution isn't normally allowed until the Summoner reaches 5th level, so any advancements (increased speed or flight-magical) cannot be applied until that level.
 
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Well, interesting idea but access to flying at such low levels is going to break many encounters, unless the whole campaign is air based, so my gut tells me you wont find anything like this.

Lucky for you you are the DM so go hog wild.

Actually, thinking about this, maybe use the aquatic base form, but change the swim speed to fly.
 

I am not sure how it would break encounters unless the summoner is one of the smaller races and the mount evolution is taken (which by the RAW wouldn't apply since that evolution is restricted to quads and serpentines). Sure the Eidolon can fly upward out of range but there are penalties to the Eidolon's hp if it gets too far from the Summoner (unless the unfettered spell is cast first).
I would think it might be almost equivalent to a wizard choosing a raven or owl familiar or casting a Summon Monster I and summoning eagles. The big difference would be the size of the animal/creature and one possible mod would be to have the flyer base form start out Small instead of Medium and require taking the 4-Point evolution to grow to Medium (6 additional points to grow to Large and 8 additional points to grow to Huge). If the base form started out smaller that would scale the natural attacks bite would be 1d4, claw 1d3, etc.
I will plan on trying it out tonight so we will see how it goes. Considering the summoner is going to be an Ogre I see the Eidolon being more of a nuisance compared to the summoner.
 

Take the snake form, add wings. I think that's the closest you get. Afraid a flyer form would need a minimum level, which is not a good idea since you cannot change the base form of your eidolon as you level up. If you make a flier base form, it should be slow on land and be forced to bye flight powers normally - which basically is what the serpent is.
 

You could use the rules as they are written, and apply any thematic bits you want as description or flair.

A level 1 Cool Looking Demonic Vulture (Eidolon):
Quadruped (Limbs [legs, legs], Bite). Evolutions: Pounce, Improved Damage, Claws (front legs)

The pounce, thematically is the horrid vulture monster scrabbling forward and vaulting itself with scabby rotting wings. It then gets to claw+claw anything it can charge. In terms of it's "legs" I imagine it moving something like a gorilla. It's just too stooped and horrifying to be classified as a biped and it doesn't really have deft hands...just awful raking claws.

Anywho...I'm just off the cuff tinkering. If you aren't worried about the added challenge a flying eidolon + summoner could pose for your players, then roll with your modified base form.
 

I used my flier but didn't work as expected. There was an extra Yeth Hound that I missed in an earlier encounter so I decided to give it to the Ogre family as a "pet". The hound bayed the first round and the eidolon and two out of the three Ogres failed their Will saves so they were panicked and tried to flee. The eidolon provoked an AoO from the monk and one hit brought it down (it was only 1 HD after all).

Morale of the story, Yeth Hounds do not make good pets unless you are an evil outsider.
 

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