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<blockquote data-quote="theeo123" data-source="post: 4229347" data-attributes="member: 66084"><p>Okay I've been playing D&D for FAR FAR to long (1st edition) I was also the Vice president of my high schools Gaming Club back in the day, an officially sponsored school club for RPG's Part of my job was introducing new players to the games we played, and I Had to go over this question quite a bit. I'm by no means an expert, and alignment truthfully is a very subjective thing, but this is about how I usually explained it</p><p></p><p>To me, it helps to think of your alignment as two separate portions ,law Vs chaos & Evil Vs Good even though we say "lawful good" as if it's one alignment it's still a couple different things. </p><p></p><p>To me the difference between neutral good and chaotic good for instance is a slight but important one</p><p></p><p>Neutral good, doesn't care either way weather a given action is lawful or not, as long as it's for the good of the people, he'll work within the system if he can, but has no qualms about working outside the system. Some people even considered this the "Vulcan" alignment, nto caring about law or chaos, simply using whatever method is most efficient to work for the overall good. </p><p></p><p>Chaotic good, to me, is more like an Eco terrorist. someone who is (or at least believes they are) doing good. but goes out of their way, to spit in the face of "the system" choosing a more straightforward, approach, and by causing disruption, damage, turmoil etc not only helps his cause, but hurts the Established Rule-makers in the process. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Lawful evil and neutral evil</p><p>Again same way. AEG's "Evil" source book has a very nice definition of this, again with neutrality being someone who doesn't care either way, a self centered person, worrying only about their own needs.</p><p></p><p>Lawful evil, Well, imagine a toy manufacturer, who specifically uses shoddy cheap goods, or dangerous ones, to increase profit, he's working within the bounds of the law, but using them to his best advantage, finding loopholes to suit his needs. He is lawful, he follows the law to the letter, but he uses the law to accomplish evil deeds (there's a number of modern day Corporations that are probably in this category) </p><p></p><p>A lot of it boils down to the characters basic worldview, more than his actions. Even lawful characters are capable of breaking the law, But chaotic characters go out of their way to do it. and Neutral characters, don't give a crap one way or the other.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="theeo123, post: 4229347, member: 66084"] Okay I've been playing D&D for FAR FAR to long (1st edition) I was also the Vice president of my high schools Gaming Club back in the day, an officially sponsored school club for RPG's Part of my job was introducing new players to the games we played, and I Had to go over this question quite a bit. I'm by no means an expert, and alignment truthfully is a very subjective thing, but this is about how I usually explained it To me, it helps to think of your alignment as two separate portions ,law Vs chaos & Evil Vs Good even though we say "lawful good" as if it's one alignment it's still a couple different things. To me the difference between neutral good and chaotic good for instance is a slight but important one Neutral good, doesn't care either way weather a given action is lawful or not, as long as it's for the good of the people, he'll work within the system if he can, but has no qualms about working outside the system. Some people even considered this the "Vulcan" alignment, nto caring about law or chaos, simply using whatever method is most efficient to work for the overall good. Chaotic good, to me, is more like an Eco terrorist. someone who is (or at least believes they are) doing good. but goes out of their way, to spit in the face of "the system" choosing a more straightforward, approach, and by causing disruption, damage, turmoil etc not only helps his cause, but hurts the Established Rule-makers in the process. Lawful evil and neutral evil Again same way. AEG's "Evil" source book has a very nice definition of this, again with neutrality being someone who doesn't care either way, a self centered person, worrying only about their own needs. Lawful evil, Well, imagine a toy manufacturer, who specifically uses shoddy cheap goods, or dangerous ones, to increase profit, he's working within the bounds of the law, but using them to his best advantage, finding loopholes to suit his needs. He is lawful, he follows the law to the letter, but he uses the law to accomplish evil deeds (there's a number of modern day Corporations that are probably in this category) A lot of it boils down to the characters basic worldview, more than his actions. Even lawful characters are capable of breaking the law, But chaotic characters go out of their way to do it. and Neutral characters, don't give a crap one way or the other. [/QUOTE]
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