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No evil gods in 4e?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jack99" data-source="post: 4230603" data-attributes="member: 53135"><p>Yeah. As the beast said, that's not irony. And considering your last quote (the one about your clever players) of what I had written, sarcasm isn't your forte either.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, just for the record, I never said you were a bad guy for talking about 4e. I merely stated that I found it odd that someone (that would be you in this case) who bitches about just about every aspect of 4e, chooses to come here and complain. I get those that have reservations about certain aspects, and thus wishes to debate them, but the people like you who come here, seemingly with only one purpose: to trash 4e. Those people (that would still be you) I don't get. But of course, do as your wish. It is after all, a "free" country.</p><p></p><p>About defending the 4e alignment system. If you had understood Ari's posts, you would have understood that it is fairly obvious that they have changed the meaning of the different alignments, at least in some parts. Given that, how do I defend it? One could argue that it is just as hard to attack, since we know zip and nada, aside from the fact that CG-LN-LE-CN-N do not exist anymore, instead we have unaligned and (most likely) different definitions of good, evil, lawful good and chaotic evil.</p><p></p><p>So, if you want to rant about it, rant about the fact that it breaks your 3.x needless sense of symmetry that there are no longer 9 alignments. Arguing anything else is pointless, as you do not know what "range" the new 5 alignments cover. </p><p></p><p>Wow. This just felt like work.</p><p></p><p>Cheers</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack99, post: 4230603, member: 53135"] Yeah. As the beast said, that's not irony. And considering your last quote (the one about your clever players) of what I had written, sarcasm isn't your forte either. Anyway, just for the record, I never said you were a bad guy for talking about 4e. I merely stated that I found it odd that someone (that would be you in this case) who bitches about just about every aspect of 4e, chooses to come here and complain. I get those that have reservations about certain aspects, and thus wishes to debate them, but the people like you who come here, seemingly with only one purpose: to trash 4e. Those people (that would still be you) I don't get. But of course, do as your wish. It is after all, a "free" country. About defending the 4e alignment system. If you had understood Ari's posts, you would have understood that it is fairly obvious that they have changed the meaning of the different alignments, at least in some parts. Given that, how do I defend it? One could argue that it is just as hard to attack, since we know zip and nada, aside from the fact that CG-LN-LE-CN-N do not exist anymore, instead we have unaligned and (most likely) different definitions of good, evil, lawful good and chaotic evil. So, if you want to rant about it, rant about the fact that it breaks your 3.x needless sense of symmetry that there are no longer 9 alignments. Arguing anything else is pointless, as you do not know what "range" the new 5 alignments cover. Wow. This just felt like work. Cheers [/QUOTE]
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