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<blockquote data-quote="Monayuris" data-source="post: 7908526" data-attributes="member: 6859536"><p>To me this is the crux of the matter.</p><p></p><p>As a player, how much do you care about the answer to this question?</p><p></p><p>Some players don't care. As long as it is fun and they're having a good time, certainty of DM intervention is irrelevant. It doesn't get in the way of their fun and in fact it probably enhances it.</p><p></p><p>Personally, my own belief as a player, I would care.</p><p></p><p>I enjoy D&D for the exploration aspect. D&D, for me, is the idea that I am thrust into a fantasy world of my imagination. I view the game as if my character is my avatar in this realm. I want to be the one who faces the challenges and threats of this world.</p><p></p><p>As a player, I don't care about character optimization or building, I don't care about feats or abilities, I don't care about talking in funny voices or realizing a fantasy persona.</p><p></p><p>I care about interacting with a fantasy world and imagining myself being pitted against this world. I am all about figuring out puzzles and tricks and making sense of the environment. I like challenges that face the player, not the character.</p><p></p><p>This requires that my DM is playing fair and is impartial. That the DM is providing accurate and actionable information that allows me to make choices and decisions and assumptions. If the DM is moving things around behind the screen or changing things up, I don't have a clear picture anymore.</p><p></p><p>When the DM is manipulating the game on the fly, they are changing the reality around me. </p><p></p><p>If I search under the statue for treasure and find something, is it because it was there or was it because the DM put it there on the fly because I searched?</p><p></p><p>It may seem like 'what I don't know wouldn't hurt me' and that it doesn't matter. BUT, if I ever found out it, it would destroy my achievement and my fun. If I felt the DM was doing this, I would never trust this DM again and would probably never play under them again.</p><p></p><p>Me as a DM, I would NEVER want to put a player in this situation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Monayuris, post: 7908526, member: 6859536"] To me this is the crux of the matter. As a player, how much do you care about the answer to this question? Some players don't care. As long as it is fun and they're having a good time, certainty of DM intervention is irrelevant. It doesn't get in the way of their fun and in fact it probably enhances it. Personally, my own belief as a player, I would care. I enjoy D&D for the exploration aspect. D&D, for me, is the idea that I am thrust into a fantasy world of my imagination. I view the game as if my character is my avatar in this realm. I want to be the one who faces the challenges and threats of this world. As a player, I don't care about character optimization or building, I don't care about feats or abilities, I don't care about talking in funny voices or realizing a fantasy persona. I care about interacting with a fantasy world and imagining myself being pitted against this world. I am all about figuring out puzzles and tricks and making sense of the environment. I like challenges that face the player, not the character. This requires that my DM is playing fair and is impartial. That the DM is providing accurate and actionable information that allows me to make choices and decisions and assumptions. If the DM is moving things around behind the screen or changing things up, I don't have a clear picture anymore. When the DM is manipulating the game on the fly, they are changing the reality around me. If I search under the statue for treasure and find something, is it because it was there or was it because the DM put it there on the fly because I searched? It may seem like 'what I don't know wouldn't hurt me' and that it doesn't matter. BUT, if I ever found out it, it would destroy my achievement and my fun. If I felt the DM was doing this, I would never trust this DM again and would probably never play under them again. Me as a DM, I would NEVER want to put a player in this situation. [/QUOTE]
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