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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9255534" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>If you limit it to "misleading" that's true, but if you expand it much further than that, it's not. Like "negative" videos - if you don't make any arguably negative or critical videos, unless you're Mr Beast (and there's only one of him, and he already has his cult worshipping him), you're going to have a harder time attracting any kind of audience in the longer-term than other YouTubers. Indeed, your audience might even consider you a shill or the like for failing to criticise certain things.</p><p></p><p>A lot of YouTubers and TikTokers and so on are actually not doing great financially, so the slightly snarky "you won't starve" is not an attractive or very honest-feeling position. Especially not in the US, a country absolutely happy to see certain people starve. Indeed, that's how a lot of them get into doing actual misleading videos - because those are often much more successful than ones which are not. There are some minor YouTubers in their 20s who I follow who I am pretty sure that if they didn't put out at least X% negative videos they'd end up on the street or at the very least would have to work two shelfstacking jobs or a lot more GrubHub alongside their YouTube. That is negative not misleading though, and maybe you don't care re: negative.</p><p></p><p>This seems like a rather large overstatement. I normally find your posts pretty persuasive but this seems like just jumping on top of a high horse and attempting to look down at people, which is surely not the intention. The reality is, putting out purely negative videos usually sharply limits your an audience, and keeping on putting out "fake news" ones will eventually cause most people to stop clicking you entirely. Individual negative and critical videos are very often the way people find YouTubers though - the algorithm tends to monetize them less as I discussed so they're often not the "bread and butter" of YouTubers, but rather get people to come and start watching let's plays or crafting stuff or whatever.</p><p></p><p>Sure, there are lines that individuals don't want to cross, or shouldn't cross, and making actively misleading/dishonest videos is one of them. But here's a big problem - a huge amount of the content out there is misleading and dishonest, but the people making it often don't really even understand that, because they're morons, as are their audience. Much of the worst dishonest and misleading stuff isn't even negative - it's positive - magical thinking stuff about how you can solve all your problems if you just wish hard enough or whatever. That doesn't really apply to D&D but it certainly impacts the climate of video sites - when people who pushing absolute nonsense aren't treated negatively in any way by the sites, even positively because their nonsense is theoretically positive, that's going to have an impact.</p><p></p><p>The audience is a huge part of the problem - algorithms are too but honestly YouTube has got significantly better there - I can watch a bunch of weird gun content (I do like a weird guns) and am no longer directed straight to Qanon, fringe militia groups, and ranting sovereign citizens and so on. Whereas say, five years ago? Oooof. I imagine on TikTok I would be though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9255534, member: 18"] If you limit it to "misleading" that's true, but if you expand it much further than that, it's not. Like "negative" videos - if you don't make any arguably negative or critical videos, unless you're Mr Beast (and there's only one of him, and he already has his cult worshipping him), you're going to have a harder time attracting any kind of audience in the longer-term than other YouTubers. Indeed, your audience might even consider you a shill or the like for failing to criticise certain things. A lot of YouTubers and TikTokers and so on are actually not doing great financially, so the slightly snarky "you won't starve" is not an attractive or very honest-feeling position. Especially not in the US, a country absolutely happy to see certain people starve. Indeed, that's how a lot of them get into doing actual misleading videos - because those are often much more successful than ones which are not. There are some minor YouTubers in their 20s who I follow who I am pretty sure that if they didn't put out at least X% negative videos they'd end up on the street or at the very least would have to work two shelfstacking jobs or a lot more GrubHub alongside their YouTube. That is negative not misleading though, and maybe you don't care re: negative. This seems like a rather large overstatement. I normally find your posts pretty persuasive but this seems like just jumping on top of a high horse and attempting to look down at people, which is surely not the intention. The reality is, putting out purely negative videos usually sharply limits your an audience, and keeping on putting out "fake news" ones will eventually cause most people to stop clicking you entirely. Individual negative and critical videos are very often the way people find YouTubers though - the algorithm tends to monetize them less as I discussed so they're often not the "bread and butter" of YouTubers, but rather get people to come and start watching let's plays or crafting stuff or whatever. Sure, there are lines that individuals don't want to cross, or shouldn't cross, and making actively misleading/dishonest videos is one of them. But here's a big problem - a huge amount of the content out there is misleading and dishonest, but the people making it often don't really even understand that, because they're morons, as are their audience. Much of the worst dishonest and misleading stuff isn't even negative - it's positive - magical thinking stuff about how you can solve all your problems if you just wish hard enough or whatever. That doesn't really apply to D&D but it certainly impacts the climate of video sites - when people who pushing absolute nonsense aren't treated negatively in any way by the sites, even positively because their nonsense is theoretically positive, that's going to have an impact. The audience is a huge part of the problem - algorithms are too but honestly YouTube has got significantly better there - I can watch a bunch of weird gun content (I do like a weird guns) and am no longer directed straight to Qanon, fringe militia groups, and ranting sovereign citizens and so on. Whereas say, five years ago? Oooof. I imagine on TikTok I would be though. [/QUOTE]
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