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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Envisioner" data-source="post: 7933291" data-attributes="member: 6749263">Yeah, we're definitely not doing that, for a myriad of reasons, some of which have already been stated. Ultimately this issue is something that isn't going to be solved in any straightforward way; the writers of the game just don't expect players to all be the kinds of expert problem solvers who inevitably rise to the top of a community over time.  Your scenario about becoming a pack of sharks is clearly a highly advanced, thought-through approach to the problem, and it make some sense to say that a career adventurer shouldn't be totally blindsided by everything that happens, but maybe it also doesn't make sense for him to be quite this on-top of every situation all the time (if nothing else, being in such a state of hypervigilance has to be physically and mentally exhausting).  More sophisticated rules for things like detection and surprise would help, but this is 5E; "sophisticated rules" aren't really the direction they went with this version of the books.I'm okay with you doing some of this kind of thing.  I like creativity when solving a problem, but when you such an extreme and prevent problems from ever forming, then you're effectively making yourself the hypercompetent star of a TV show about a person who never faces any danger, never experiences any real drama, and is ultimately pretty boring to watch.  At which point your show gets canceled.I'm beginning to wonder if, instead of having you as a PC, I should perhaps have you as a co-GM who helps me optimize these encounters, so that they're as dangerous as they really should be, given that the scenario involves extremely intelligent arch-villains with plans for global domination.  I definitely don't want this to be a case of "four random joes stumble upon a fiendish plot, which they must sabotage using nothing more than common kitchen appliances"; that's a valid storytelling approach for someone like Simon Pegg, to be sure, but it's neither how the Forgotten Realms rolls nor how I do.</blockquote>

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