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<blockquote data-quote="smaugdragon" data-source="post: 1865399" data-attributes="member: 7564"><p><strong>My 2 cents worth</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise"> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> OK, You don't see the dragon on threads very much. Why? because I spout off a lot on the Mortality Radio Show and don't see the need for further editorializing when I spend most of my free time reviewing games.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise">Oathbound is one of the strongest world setting to have come down the line in a while. It is also one of the few non-WotC settings to still have product support.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise">It is a good place to shift players to after you start to reach that 'I have killed the best of my world, set up my domain and bedded enough wenches to fill a brothel, where do I go from here" point in the campaign. It is one of the few (yes I know Eberron has Epic settings) to be adaptable easily enough for epic play.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise">Someone a few hundred posts back complained that it just stole from Planescape. Even if it did (which it didn't) so what? It's not like WotC is producing all of the classic game settings for 3rd ed and as popular as Planescape was, it's not going anywhere (although maybe after Monte Cook's Countless Doors takes off). The premise is sound and any design flaws can be overcome by a decent DM, which is what most of us are supposed to be right? If you're too lazy to do design or adapt, then run stuff from Dungeon and have absolutely no imagination of your own (that is not a slam of Dungeon). No one I have ever known has ever and I mean EVER, ran a campaign without adding their special and unique tweaks to the published material.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise">It is heavy handed because it is set to play with whatever house rules are desired to be used. If you want to use Plot & Poison or Torn Asunder then apply the critical hits stuff to it.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise">I do agree with the posts about the artwork. This has been my main beef with Bastion's work from the beginning. It is eye catching but the post that called it a vivesectionist's skin fetish isn't far from the mark. But I disagree with the video game snipes. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise">I, myself, play in my own homebrewed campaign setting that has absorbed some of the better campaign settings like Bluffside, Freeport, Hunt: The Rise of Evil and a good many of the one shot wonders but I found a lot to port from Oathbound and rather than bash it, support it as the company does because how many other publishers are supporting their campaign products? How much PS came out with Ghostwalk? Dungeonworld? Nyambe?</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise">People who come out like this and just bash need to get a life, if you don't like it, don't play it. If you think you can do better, the markets wide open. If you think you can improve what's already there, I'm sure Jim Butler would like to hear your proposal.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise">I spend an awful lot of time trying to find the good in product while putting out the crap I didn't like or would never use. My early campaign's didn't use psionics and for the most part still don't. It has a place as a more common occurance in D20 Modern but I don't like it for a medieval setting (call me a purist).</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: MediumTurquoise">So instead of bashing it, why not add some suggestions of improvement to any objections? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </span> </span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smaugdragon, post: 1865399, member: 7564"] [b]My 2 cents worth[/b] [FONT=Century Gothic][SIZE=4][COLOR=MediumTurquoise] :( OK, You don't see the dragon on threads very much. Why? because I spout off a lot on the Mortality Radio Show and don't see the need for further editorializing when I spend most of my free time reviewing games. Oathbound is one of the strongest world setting to have come down the line in a while. It is also one of the few non-WotC settings to still have product support. It is a good place to shift players to after you start to reach that 'I have killed the best of my world, set up my domain and bedded enough wenches to fill a brothel, where do I go from here" point in the campaign. It is one of the few (yes I know Eberron has Epic settings) to be adaptable easily enough for epic play. Someone a few hundred posts back complained that it just stole from Planescape. Even if it did (which it didn't) so what? It's not like WotC is producing all of the classic game settings for 3rd ed and as popular as Planescape was, it's not going anywhere (although maybe after Monte Cook's Countless Doors takes off). The premise is sound and any design flaws can be overcome by a decent DM, which is what most of us are supposed to be right? If you're too lazy to do design or adapt, then run stuff from Dungeon and have absolutely no imagination of your own (that is not a slam of Dungeon). No one I have ever known has ever and I mean EVER, ran a campaign without adding their special and unique tweaks to the published material. It is heavy handed because it is set to play with whatever house rules are desired to be used. If you want to use Plot & Poison or Torn Asunder then apply the critical hits stuff to it. I do agree with the posts about the artwork. This has been my main beef with Bastion's work from the beginning. It is eye catching but the post that called it a vivesectionist's skin fetish isn't far from the mark. But I disagree with the video game snipes. I, myself, play in my own homebrewed campaign setting that has absorbed some of the better campaign settings like Bluffside, Freeport, Hunt: The Rise of Evil and a good many of the one shot wonders but I found a lot to port from Oathbound and rather than bash it, support it as the company does because how many other publishers are supporting their campaign products? How much PS came out with Ghostwalk? Dungeonworld? Nyambe? People who come out like this and just bash need to get a life, if you don't like it, don't play it. If you think you can do better, the markets wide open. If you think you can improve what's already there, I'm sure Jim Butler would like to hear your proposal. I spend an awful lot of time trying to find the good in product while putting out the crap I didn't like or would never use. My early campaign's didn't use psionics and for the most part still don't. It has a place as a more common occurance in D20 Modern but I don't like it for a medieval setting (call me a purist). So instead of bashing it, why not add some suggestions of improvement to any objections? :D [/COLOR] [/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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