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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kobold Boots" data-source="post: 7334888" data-attributes="member: 92239">Hi Capn -Thanks for replying.  I'll go through your points in order because you're coming off rather sanely, so I want to as well in order to bridge any gaps.1. Yes, a base line price list is entirely doable.  I personally never said it wasn't.  However, I did mention that any price list that requires significant modification to be useful is of dubious value to begin with, and we're already at that point.2. I think that you and I are arguing (and perhaps others too) that the DM should not expect to leave his brain at home.  I do not think that everyone is arguing that, and I don't think the two of us could be certain they weren't.3. You're correct that there's no utility based pricing.  They're assuming that rarity drives price more than utility in a magic heavy setting (if they're even thinking that far ahead about it.)4. You don't need to provide examples.  This isn't a rules discussion that has a hard and fast interpretation or debate about interpretation.  Situation simply is what it is.5. I personally, was not defending anything.What I am saying is that if something is broken, it's better to fix it and present your solution for discussion rather than argue about something that's broken.  Generally you'll get more value out of the discussion, but it may be drier than this or create fewer pages.For what it's worth, I'm just as culpable as far as this thread is concerned.Be wellKB</blockquote>

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