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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7335912" data-attributes="member: 29398">Yes.That said, those who read the DMG to find information they shouldn't have - e.g. what does this item do that our party just found - are IMO flat-out cheating.In this case, however, A (the magic item price list) was moved from book B (the DMG, where the DM in theory has final say over it) to book C (the PH, which as it's in the players' purview is somewhat harder for a DM to mess with and impossible for her to do so secretly; and also adds an assumption of availability that wan't there before).Intent has a lot to do with it.  I keep my rebuilt magic item lists in my computer, for example, along with a lot of other DM-only stuff; and if I ever found anyone snooping around in there without permission my immediate assumption of motive would be cheating...and cheating is something that will get you tossed.And I've done it this way in part because I've DMed for a number of people who have read the DMG (and a few who know it better than I do!) as well as for some who haven't and-or flat-out don't want to, and I'd prefer to equalize the knowledge level a bit where I can by in some cases invaldating knowledge gleaned from the DMG as written. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Back in the very early days when we only had one DM (not me) this is exactly what we did: the DMG and MM were strictly off limits to anyone except the DM.  And perhaps ironically I was the first in our crew to break this rule: as I'd decided to try my own hand at DMing I picked up my own copies of the DMG and MM and read 'em through.  Caused quite a ruckus at the time, if memory serves; but I did start DMing and haven't really stopped since. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Lanefan</blockquote>

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