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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Insight" data-source="post: 3451755" data-attributes="member: 11437">Well, my character concept is completely shot.  Since I don't min/max my character into a huge pile of stats and try to make one that has a personality, I can't imagine fitting in with twink-alots.  He can't do ANYTHING that either the broken warforged or the twinked feral saint swashbuckler half-vampire troll quarter celestial (add three more templates here) characters don't do a heckuva lot better.Here's the problem with a group of mixed min/maxers and people that try to play real characters.  The people who try to play real characters always get screwed.  See, the DM is going to have to come up with creatures that can hit twink boy, and those guys will hit my character EVERY SINGLE TIME.  That doesn't give me a fighting chance.Thus, the real problem with high level D&D.  When you throw open the doors to everything, you are really making it hard for those of us who a) don't own every single book and b) want to create a concept character rather than a twink.Unfortunately, that character and mine would be laughed out of this game.  I don't think I have the time or patience to compete with the twinks of the world.  I just want to play a game and try to make something of it.  The constant oneupsmanship is very very tired.</blockquote>