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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Darimaus" data-source="post: 3454860" data-attributes="member: 50345">OK, I hope this doesn't come out as bragging, I hope this doesn't come out offensive, I hope this doesn't come out as anything but me venting about this twinking argument. I'll start by diverting the subject a little. This isn't a campaign about PC competition. If my large scale thing is accepted, what it will be is a world where PCs get to craft their own goals and accomplishments. Who cares about what the other PCs are doing? Go out there and have fun!!! More importantly its not like we are hurting for pary slots here. It hasn't quite gotten to the point where I feel obligated to bump someone off the list yet, and trust me, if and when it comes down to that, I'm not picking based off of power level, but of creativity and willingness of the PC to have a good time. That being said, lets get this core vs non-core buisness out of the way RIGHT now. I have noted you complain about lacking access to extra sources makes your character weak and pointless. I will now state my position on this matter, and I am fully willing to prove it to the best of my ability to anyone who feels the need to call me on this issue. CORE IS BROKEN!!!!! Instead of making characters more powerful, all the additional sources do is make that power more readily available. The reason why I like them, is because they allow a character to diversify and look at their character builds from different angles. I am sorry that some of you don't have access to such sources, I really am, despite the thousand dollars me and my friends dished out to do it. Now, there are different power levels, and using outside sources makes that perfectly clear, but let me try and put my perspective on you all. I have seen, and made 20th level Core characters with an AC over 115. I've made ones with an AC of over 95 with no spellcasting involved whatsoever. (this is using some fighting defensivly/expertise stuff, but you get the idea.) A core cleric can make a more powerful fighter than even our own posted Frenzied Berserker. Difference is, he can still heal... everyone. I don't want you guys getting the idea that this is what I expect, or even want from all of you. I just want to vent on the fact that core is just as bad as using not core. I want you all to make what you think is fun to play. If you think someone else overshadows you, don't hang out with them in game. Go carve your own path. Don't forget why you picked up the books for the very first time. Its a game. ENJOY IT!If anyone feels the need to retort, go ahead, but please use spoilers. Jemal, its obvious that the class is meant to boost those spells, so I'll allow any spell (and advanced variation of it, but clear that with me first) that was listed to gain those effects from the class.Now I'm overdue for some Zs. Take it easy all.Rathan, what I'm looking for is roleplay value, so if you believe you can deliver, please continue with the game.</blockquote>

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