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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9296135" data-attributes="member: 18">Obsidian are owned by MS, so are essentially "too big" unless the MS execs and the ex-MS Hasbro execs are such friends that they can get a really good deal through.They don't have any studios who could do this, and they couldn't do it themselves.CDPR? They're far too big. The reason they did the Cyberpunk 2077 licence is that they are so much more powerful than R. Talsorian Games, who are basically, a handful of people who long ago had a moderately successful TT RPG, that RTG has no power over them, and definitely DID NOT get a percentage of gross revenue (unlike WotC), and they've got an exceptional and direct working relationship with Mike Pondsmith who seems to be keen to basically say "Yes! Cool!" to everything CDPR wants to do. They didn't need to use a licence at all - they did it because the devs actually loved Cyberpunk 2020's vibe. But they make games that sell a lot more copies than BG3 has yet - Witcher 3 has sold over 50m, for example.I forgot the reason, because it wasn't really animated until much later on, but otherwise what I said was correct.As for "you could shoot it from a distance", no, not day one you couldn't. You're retcon'ing stuff that became possible with the later updates to the encounter into always being there. Understandable given how many changes there were over time.Now you're being extremely factually inaccurate and deeply misleading.You're quoting a deeply obscure FR novel, that people (including you) only know about or have heard of because of that ridiculous and out-of-character line, and how poorly it fits with the FR, and acting like it's representative of the FR. It's not. The FR is flatly not a grimdark setting. Insisting that it is means that essentially every single fantasy setting is "grimdark" and thus the term is meaningless, and obviously that's not the case. The FR novels definitely have some edgelord stuff in them, especially some of the '90s and early '00s ones, but that's not representative of the setting as a whole, and lot of what happens in the novels is simply not canon, so pretending it is is bizarre behaviour and misleading.As WotC themselves said, unless it's actually in an FR book published for 5E (and that does not include novels), you cannot assume it is still canon. I will say the 3E FR did, like a lot of 3E stuff, lean definitely more that way, but the 4E and 5E versions do not. Nor did the 2E one.Rivellon, on the other hand, is fundamentally grimdark, particularly as of DOS1 and DOS2. It hits countless grimdark and crapsack world tropes in both of those (arguably DOS1 is more crapsaccharine, but that's not a very useful trope imho). You could argue that prior portrayals only had it as "dark fantasy", not grimdark, and I'd kind of agree - to- a point - but there's no possible argument that DOS2 isn't maximally grimdark/crapsack world and doesn't have some of the most edgelord companions ever seen in any RPG.</blockquote>

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