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<blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 23171" data-attributes="member: 1118"><p>I *REALLY* don't want to get into this again, but I don't want a powerful opponent to become weaker just because it brought friends <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I don't think I'm severely hampering the fighter or making light of his feats. He still killed all the rats and got an extra attack against the vampire in one round That's good, and he couldn't have done it without those feats.</p><p></p><p>I know that WWA + GC mimics someone who has trained to fight well in a crowd, and as far as I'm concerned, he is....he just killed all the weak monsters and gotten an extra attack in one round. But if I allowed him to get, lets say 8 extra attacks, against the vampire in one round I just made the vampire much weaker than if the vampire didn't bring the rats. Normally, the EL increases with more opponents. In this case, it should be lower.</p><p></p><p>Again, I know that it never happens in reality, so this is a moot point. Suffice it to say, I've been in this conversation before and don't really want to repeat it. I feel that my house rule keeps this feat combination powerful but doesn't force powerful adversaries from *not* using weak minions in order to keep themselves from being killed.</p><p></p><p>Again, I also know that the chances of the fighter being surrounded by a large number of weak monsters and the powerful monster at the same time is rare, so I don't have a real issue with it.</p><p></p><p>Also, I'm actually not a DM that tries to rule away player inventiness. I actually let them get away with a lot. I just see allowing the all GCs to be applied to the vampire as being just too much - killing all the low level minions and getting an extra attack is enough for me.</p><p></p><p>IceBear</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IceBear, post: 23171, member: 1118"] I *REALLY* don't want to get into this again, but I don't want a powerful opponent to become weaker just because it brought friends :) I don't think I'm severely hampering the fighter or making light of his feats. He still killed all the rats and got an extra attack against the vampire in one round That's good, and he couldn't have done it without those feats. I know that WWA + GC mimics someone who has trained to fight well in a crowd, and as far as I'm concerned, he is....he just killed all the weak monsters and gotten an extra attack in one round. But if I allowed him to get, lets say 8 extra attacks, against the vampire in one round I just made the vampire much weaker than if the vampire didn't bring the rats. Normally, the EL increases with more opponents. In this case, it should be lower. Again, I know that it never happens in reality, so this is a moot point. Suffice it to say, I've been in this conversation before and don't really want to repeat it. I feel that my house rule keeps this feat combination powerful but doesn't force powerful adversaries from *not* using weak minions in order to keep themselves from being killed. Again, I also know that the chances of the fighter being surrounded by a large number of weak monsters and the powerful monster at the same time is rare, so I don't have a real issue with it. Also, I'm actually not a DM that tries to rule away player inventiness. I actually let them get away with a lot. I just see allowing the all GCs to be applied to the vampire as being just too much - killing all the low level minions and getting an extra attack is enough for me. IceBear [/QUOTE]
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