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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ltbaxter" data-source="post: 4066553" data-attributes="member: 60472">Con modifier to HP may not be goneGuys, while you may be right, I think there's more than a decent chance that hit point modifiers for constitution might still be there.The bonus for a character's hit points is currently = (Con modifier) * (character level)   (or hit dice in some cases).It is not the case that the hit point bonus is characterized by new hit points = a hit die plus con modifier.The difference of course is that hp due to con bonus are 'retroactive'. Hit points for a 10th lvl character who gains another +1 con modifier go up 10 points. They don't stay the same waiting for a new level. Contrast that with skill points, for which you get nnn points + INT bonus when you go up a level. Note that saying your hp at first lvl is 12 + con score doesn't invalidate this point. Whether or not the bonus should be per level or not is subjective and I'm not here to debate that (although I prefer it per level) - I'm just pointing out that from what we've read in the rogue article, it seems to me premature to think that it's gone in 4e. (If there's another source that more definitively says it is gone, please let me know)</blockquote>