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No More "Humans in Funny Hats": Racial Mechanics Should Determine Racial Cultures
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<blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8386011" data-attributes="member: 7023887"><p>You really want to do this? Okay, here we go. </p><p></p><p>I started by saying: </p><p></p><p>(Basically, why can't halflings have more racially-determined cultures? Here are some examples of how this could work.)</p><p>You replied by saying this:</p><p></p><p>An objectively stated claim, in a short post with no evidence, examples, or reasoning to support it. </p><p>I then criticized and rebutted this post here:</p><p></p><p>I started out by pointing out how your subjective opinion was mistakenly posted in a means that made it appear as if it was an objective fact, and then continued to explain how these are differing and subjective tastes, that the "alien mindsets" should largely be close enough to humans for us human players to understand them, empathize with them, and properly play them, even though I do think that all non-human races should have some modicum of alien-ness in their psychology/culture (mainly because I find it interesting, it helps me separate them from each other in concept, and find ways to fit them into different campaigns and settings). </p><p></p><p>[USER=10196]@Scars Unseen[/USER] then criticized me for criticizing your post's phrasing here: </p><p></p><p>I replied by saying this:</p><p></p><p>(Basically, I get criticized when posting opinions as if they were facts, as do others, and that I had more to my post than just this minor gripe.)</p><p>However, I posted that before reading this post of yours:</p><p></p><p>See the emboldened text. After I noticed this doubling down on the "my subjective opinion is objectively true" stance from [USER=6704184]@doctorbadwolf[/USER], I posted:</p><p></p><p>Explaining that you, [USER=6704184]@doctorbadwolf[/USER], had doubled down on your wording being objectively true, and so my initial criticism was indeed warranted in the first place. However, you just said:</p><p></p><p>Which seems to claim that I am the one that made an objective/universal claim about my own subjective opinion/position, when in fact the literal opposite is literally exactly what spurred this infuriating debate of semantics in the first place. </p><p></p><p>Is that clear? Was I thorough enough for you? Can you see how the objectively-stated sentence of "Not all humans should be alien in mindset from humans" and the doubling down through "it is objectively true that not all races should be alien in mindset" is you doubling down on the opinion-as-objective-fact position, and not me? Did you accidentally read your posts as being from my account, because otherwise you seem to be arguing in bad faith. In which case, I will happily disengage and tell you to cease to respond to me again in the future. At least, until you can remember to read what you wrote before accusing me of stating an opinion as objective fact. </p><p></p><p>Is that it? If so, have a good day. Hopefully our next encounter will be more pleasant.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Levistus's_Leviathan, post: 8386011, member: 7023887"] You really want to do this? Okay, here we go. I started by saying: (Basically, why can't halflings have more racially-determined cultures? Here are some examples of how this could work.) You replied by saying this: An objectively stated claim, in a short post with no evidence, examples, or reasoning to support it. I then criticized and rebutted this post here: I started out by pointing out how your subjective opinion was mistakenly posted in a means that made it appear as if it was an objective fact, and then continued to explain how these are differing and subjective tastes, that the "alien mindsets" should largely be close enough to humans for us human players to understand them, empathize with them, and properly play them, even though I do think that all non-human races should have some modicum of alien-ness in their psychology/culture (mainly because I find it interesting, it helps me separate them from each other in concept, and find ways to fit them into different campaigns and settings). [USER=10196]@Scars Unseen[/USER] then criticized me for criticizing your post's phrasing here: I replied by saying this: (Basically, I get criticized when posting opinions as if they were facts, as do others, and that I had more to my post than just this minor gripe.) However, I posted that before reading this post of yours: See the emboldened text. After I noticed this doubling down on the "my subjective opinion is objectively true" stance from [USER=6704184]@doctorbadwolf[/USER], I posted: Explaining that you, [USER=6704184]@doctorbadwolf[/USER], had doubled down on your wording being objectively true, and so my initial criticism was indeed warranted in the first place. However, you just said: Which seems to claim that I am the one that made an objective/universal claim about my own subjective opinion/position, when in fact the literal opposite is literally exactly what spurred this infuriating debate of semantics in the first place. Is that clear? Was I thorough enough for you? Can you see how the objectively-stated sentence of "Not all humans should be alien in mindset from humans" and the doubling down through "it is objectively true that not all races should be alien in mindset" is you doubling down on the opinion-as-objective-fact position, and not me? Did you accidentally read your posts as being from my account, because otherwise you seem to be arguing in bad faith. In which case, I will happily disengage and tell you to cease to respond to me again in the future. At least, until you can remember to read what you wrote before accusing me of stating an opinion as objective fact. Is that it? If so, have a good day. Hopefully our next encounter will be more pleasant. [/QUOTE]
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