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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Swanosaurus" data-source="post: 9348513" data-attributes="member: 7044220">You are not wrong about your need for rules. You are wrong about my need for rules.Because I actually don't care about shotguns beyond the worst unrealistic tropes about how shotguns function, I have no need for a rule that produce believable shotgun results.If you care about these things, I certainly won't begrudge you detailed rules, and I applaud you for using them to create a satisfactory experience for you and your players.I certainly don't mean to say you seem clueless in any general way. But you do seem clueless to me about how different people can approach role-playing differently. And if someone says: "You know, I realized I'm fine with just a 100 pages, to me, everything beyond is just a burden", it is kind of rude to tell them that their preference is for something incomplete and deeply lacking that really couldn't stand the test of time and that therefore they must be deluding themselves if they're thinking it works for them.</blockquote>