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<blockquote data-quote="Retros_x" data-source="post: 9356035" data-attributes="member: 7033171"><p>This is the first time I experience the Dunning-Kruger-effect in a direct interaction. Do you actually think you blew anybodys mind after trying to suggest a table of contents is a b-tree search?</p><p></p><p></p><p>But it never decreases. 100 pages is always easier to navigate than 1000 pages. Thats another objective fact for you, there are no algorithms with a negative time complexity.</p><p></p><p>You didn't seem to understand in previous comments that some DMs prefer shorter ruleworks - so my point was to show you why.</p><p></p><p>Thats your fallacy. I did argue, as others in this thread, that the granularity of rules is a spectrum and there is no objectively correct amount of rules. There is no NEED for more rules. There is also no NEED for less rules (but thats not what you argued). If 10 pages of rules or 10k pages of rule work better for you is -again - no objective matter, but a matter of requirements that you and your table have.</p><p></p><p>I didn't say that. But the probability of a rules framework with 1000 pages being equally complex than a framework with 10 pages is close to zero and just a fun theoretical scenario to fantasize about. But in terms of time complexity of navigating through rules and find the correct applicable one - yes 1000 pages are always more complex to parse, if just a tiny bit one, depending on the search algorithm you apply. But I doubt that DMs at the table implement search algorithms in their mind, so another fun theoretical scenario.</p><p></p><p>No of course not. But I played games with shorter rules and games with longer rules and surprise, surprise I have shorter lookups on shorter rules. So both theory (as shown above) and my own experience show that you actually have more lookup time on bigger rule frameworks - no surprising to anyone on earth except you who appearently desperately wants to die on a very lonesome hill.</p><p></p><p>In my definition of "easier to run", this sentence supports my opinion that shorter rule frameworks are better - cause they are easier to run. Which shows again that this is not a factual matter, but an opinion. Because we probably have both different metrics of what it means to make a game easier to run.</p><p></p><p></p><p>---------------------------------</p><p>Off-Topic:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>what is with you and that attitude? Do you actually think you are so smart? I left reddit discussions because I was annoyed by the ones who think that their opinions are facts and tried to WIN arguments by throwing ad hominems around and I don't feel good to read such patronizing takes on enworld.</p><p></p><p>I have indeed a lot of questions in my mind, but they are not about the topic at all - so I refrain asking them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Retros_x, post: 9356035, member: 7033171"] This is the first time I experience the Dunning-Kruger-effect in a direct interaction. Do you actually think you blew anybodys mind after trying to suggest a table of contents is a b-tree search? But it never decreases. 100 pages is always easier to navigate than 1000 pages. Thats another objective fact for you, there are no algorithms with a negative time complexity. You didn't seem to understand in previous comments that some DMs prefer shorter ruleworks - so my point was to show you why. Thats your fallacy. I did argue, as others in this thread, that the granularity of rules is a spectrum and there is no objectively correct amount of rules. There is no NEED for more rules. There is also no NEED for less rules (but thats not what you argued). If 10 pages of rules or 10k pages of rule work better for you is -again - no objective matter, but a matter of requirements that you and your table have. I didn't say that. But the probability of a rules framework with 1000 pages being equally complex than a framework with 10 pages is close to zero and just a fun theoretical scenario to fantasize about. But in terms of time complexity of navigating through rules and find the correct applicable one - yes 1000 pages are always more complex to parse, if just a tiny bit one, depending on the search algorithm you apply. But I doubt that DMs at the table implement search algorithms in their mind, so another fun theoretical scenario. No of course not. But I played games with shorter rules and games with longer rules and surprise, surprise I have shorter lookups on shorter rules. So both theory (as shown above) and my own experience show that you actually have more lookup time on bigger rule frameworks - no surprising to anyone on earth except you who appearently desperately wants to die on a very lonesome hill. In my definition of "easier to run", this sentence supports my opinion that shorter rule frameworks are better - cause they are easier to run. Which shows again that this is not a factual matter, but an opinion. Because we probably have both different metrics of what it means to make a game easier to run. --------------------------------- Off-Topic: what is with you and that attitude? Do you actually think you are so smart? I left reddit discussions because I was annoyed by the ones who think that their opinions are facts and tried to WIN arguments by throwing ad hominems around and I don't feel good to read such patronizing takes on enworld. I have indeed a lot of questions in my mind, but they are not about the topic at all - so I refrain asking them. [/QUOTE]
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