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<blockquote data-quote="Skeld" data-source="post: 5206684" data-attributes="member: 84713">After having played SE for the last year in a mixed party (half-jedi, half non), this has been my group's #1 complaint.&nbsp; If I remember correctly, all 3 Jedi in our party had UTF modifiers of +12 or +13 at 1st level.&nbsp; One player decided to go &quot;force wizard&quot; with move object and mind trick.&nbsp; I saw it coming though (I'm the GM) and had a talk with the group before and after our first session, just to give them a heads-up about how certain force combos would wreck the game and force me to house rule to avoid spoiling the fun if over-used.&nbsp; Fortunately, my group is pretty reasonable and experienced, so they saw the potential for abuse.&nbsp; The +12 UTF move object versus the Will 10 Stormtropper is just dumb.I wish SE wasn't stuck on the 1/2/5/10 progression for bonuses/penalties.&nbsp; a few +/-3 wouldn't have hurt the game.&nbsp; When next my group goes back to SE (after the current campaign), we've talked about reducing the skill trainnig and skill focus bonuses to +3 from +5.&nbsp; That would turn a 1st-level Jedi's +12 UTF into a +8.&nbsp; Another idea is to grant Jedi Force powers based on level (instead of taking a feat).&nbsp; Maybe grant them a force power each level, which would limit low-level Jedi powers while allowing high-level Jedi to have a large suite and free up those feats for lightsaber combat feats.&nbsp; One thing I did do to encourage Jedi to use lightsabers instead of relying on Force powers was to up the lightsaber damage to 3d8 (at least that put it on par with a heavy blaster pistol).&nbsp; Funny.&nbsp; Our next SE game is going to be &quot;bounty hunters.&quot;-Skeld</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Skeld, post: 5206684, member: 84713"] After having played SE for the last year in a mixed party (half-jedi, half non), this has been my group's #1 complaint. If I remember correctly, all 3 Jedi in our party had UTF modifiers of +12 or +13 at 1st level. One player decided to go "force wizard" with [I]move object[/I] and [I]mind trick[/I]. I saw it coming though (I'm the GM) and had a talk with the group before and after our first session, just to give them a heads-up about how certain force combos would wreck the game and force me to house rule to avoid spoiling the fun if over-used. Fortunately, my group is pretty reasonable and experienced, so they saw the potential for abuse. The +12 UTF move object versus the Will 10 Stormtropper is just dumb. I wish SE wasn't stuck on the 1/2/5/10 progression for bonuses/penalties. a few +/-3 wouldn't have hurt the game. When next my group goes back to SE (after the current campaign), we've talked about reducing the skill trainnig and skill focus bonuses to +3 from +5. That would turn a 1st-level Jedi's +12 UTF into a +8. Another idea is to grant Jedi Force powers based on level (instead of taking a feat). Maybe grant them a force power each level, which would limit low-level Jedi powers while allowing high-level Jedi to have a large suite and free up those feats for lightsaber combat feats. One thing I did do to encourage Jedi to use lightsabers instead of relying on Force powers was to up the lightsaber damage to 3d8 (at least that put it on par with a heavy blaster pistol). Funny. Our next SE game is going to be "bounty hunters." -Skeld [/QUOTE]

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