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<blockquote data-quote="Shardstone" data-source="post: 9192160" data-attributes="member: 6807784">Doing things that should flatout be impossible.The PCs have 48 hours to defeat an army of 10,000 marching upon a defenseless target.There is a mountain filled with six Ancient Dragons that have been terrorizing the world and the PCs need to stop them.Asmodeus has stolen the soul of a messiah and the PCs have to go through all 9 levels of Hell in one goal to bring that soul back, from Asmodeus.Tiamat has broken out of Hell and the PCs need to wrangle her back in. If they kill her, another Avatar pops up, so they have to find a way to do it without reducing hit points to 0.The Raven Queen's need for tragedies to find herself has grown voracious. Every shadow in the country becomes a portal to the Shadowfell through which horrors spill out. The PCs have to not only save these people but go into the Shadowfell, find the Raven Queen, and convince her to stop, all while minimizing casualties in their world.These things could, in theory, be done at low levels. However, these are the kinds of challenges that high level characters NEED to feel good. You can't just put them in a dungeon anymore. You can't tell them to do a lengthy investigation. You need to throw them into situations that should kill anyone going in and then watch and marvel as they figure out a way around it all.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shardstone, post: 9192160, member: 6807784"] Doing things that should flatout be impossible. The PCs have 48 hours to defeat an army of 10,000 marching upon a defenseless target. There is a mountain filled with six Ancient Dragons that have been terrorizing the world and the PCs need to stop them. Asmodeus has stolen the soul of a messiah and the PCs have to go through all 9 levels of Hell in one goal to bring that soul back, from Asmodeus. Tiamat has broken out of Hell and the PCs need to wrangle her back in. If they kill her, another Avatar pops up, so they have to find a way to do it without reducing hit points to 0. The Raven Queen's need for tragedies to find herself has grown voracious. Every shadow in the country becomes a portal to the Shadowfell through which horrors spill out. The PCs have to not only save these people but go into the Shadowfell, find the Raven Queen, and convince her to stop, all while minimizing casualties in their world. These things could, in theory, be done at low levels. However, these are the kinds of challenges that high level characters NEED to feel good. You can't just put them in a dungeon anymore. You can't tell them to do a lengthy investigation. You need to throw them into situations that should kill anyone going in and then watch and marvel as they figure out a way around it all. [/QUOTE]

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