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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9193354" data-attributes="member: 7030563">I've played 2 campaigns to 20th level and a 20th level 1-shot.&nbsp; All of those had at least 1 full caster (one had 3 full casters out of 5) and we were making a ton of skill checks at high levels in all three of those games.&nbsp; We had a Soul Knife Rogue in one of them who almost never failed a check of any kinds at high level, even ones he was not proficient in, but we were still making a lot of checks.IME it is actually easier to use spells to bypass skill checks at low levels.There are a lot of spells available to bypass skill checks (fly, spider climb, knock, see invisibility, identify, legend lore, suggestion ....)&nbsp; but there are not typically enough preparations available to have an appreciable number of these ready to cast.&nbsp; At high levels the number of spells you can prepare or know becomes a real issue and you don't have a lot of room for &quot;nice to have&quot; spells, especially if you want more than one option for your high level slots.&nbsp; You can mitigate this with a multiclass to another full caster, but then you lose high level spells and your capstone.A Wizard, Sorcerer or Bard you can always use Wish to replicate a lower level spell she didn't prepare, but that is only once a day and it is a heck of a high price to pay to avoid rolling a skill check someone in the party will probably pass anyway.In the games I played, we used Wish a lot to replicate spells, but it was usually to cast non-combat spells in combat Wish-Planar Binding and Wish-Simulacrum were the two most common.&nbsp; We never used it to pass a skill check.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9193354, member: 7030563"] I've played 2 campaigns to 20th level and a 20th level 1-shot. All of those had at least 1 full caster (one had 3 full casters out of 5) and we were making a ton of skill checks at high levels in all three of those games. We had a Soul Knife Rogue in one of them who almost never failed a check of any kinds at high level, even ones he was not proficient in, but we were still making a lot of checks. IME it is actually easier to use spells to bypass skill checks at low levels. There are a lot of spells available to bypass skill checks (fly, spider climb, knock, see invisibility, identify, legend lore, suggestion ....) but there are not typically enough preparations available to have an appreciable number of these ready to cast. At high levels the number of spells you can prepare or know becomes a real issue and you don't have a lot of room for "nice to have" spells, especially if you want more than one option for your high level slots. You can mitigate this with a multiclass to another full caster, but then you lose high level spells and your capstone. A Wizard, Sorcerer or Bard you can always use Wish to replicate a lower level spell she didn't prepare, but that is only once a day and it is a heck of a high price to pay to avoid rolling a skill check someone in the party will probably pass anyway. In the games I played, we used Wish a lot to replicate spells, but it was usually to cast non-combat spells in combat Wish-Planar Binding and Wish-Simulacrum were the two most common. We never used it to pass a skill check. [/QUOTE]

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