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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9225251" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>Only if you define trap as "non-combat" or "minimally combat" which isn't the definition. I frequently took non-combat feats for story reasons and still kicked ass. You could even have no combat feats and kick ass.</p><p></p><p>If you weren't a power gamer it was actually fairly hard to make a bad character. Non-optimal, sure. Bad, not so easy.</p><p></p><p>This is hugely false. There are TONS of great feats gated by level(base attack X, hide X, etc.) and do not need a tree to have been started.</p><p></p><p>If you power game, sure. But powe rgaming eliminates more options than you are saying get eliminated by tying race to class.</p><p></p><p>By RAW 5e only lets you do it if the DM has okay'd it. PHB page 6</p><p></p><p>"Your DM might set the campaign on one of these worlds or on one that he or she created. Because there is so much diversity among the worlds of D&D, <strong>you should check with your DM about any house rules that will affect your play of the game</strong>. Ultimately, the Dungeon</p><p>Master is the authority on the campaign and its setting, even if the setting is a published world."</p><p></p><p>The DM can allow, change or refuse anything, per RAW.</p><p></p><p>Take the feat that eliminates that if you are one of those who even needs it.</p><p></p><p>1-3 =/= many. Most of the time you are just missing a few skill points and you can dedicate a few level's worth to get there.</p><p></p><p>Super easy to find ways, especially since if you play by RAW, every item is available to purchase with the mounds of gold you find.</p><p></p><p>Invest a few levels of skill points.</p><p></p><p>So you go to the plane of shadow and as a result you are now Mister Nature Guy with Natural Explorer, natury ranger spells, favored enemies that don't make sense, fighting styles that don't make sense(shadows make me fight different!), and and on. The only thing ranger gives you before Gloomstalker that matches your theme is stealth</p><p></p><p>Not all of us min-max/power game. And, well, we still don't suck. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 9225251, member: 23751"] Only if you define trap as "non-combat" or "minimally combat" which isn't the definition. I frequently took non-combat feats for story reasons and still kicked ass. You could even have no combat feats and kick ass. If you weren't a power gamer it was actually fairly hard to make a bad character. Non-optimal, sure. Bad, not so easy. This is hugely false. There are TONS of great feats gated by level(base attack X, hide X, etc.) and do not need a tree to have been started. If you power game, sure. But powe rgaming eliminates more options than you are saying get eliminated by tying race to class. By RAW 5e only lets you do it if the DM has okay'd it. PHB page 6 "Your DM might set the campaign on one of these worlds or on one that he or she created. Because there is so much diversity among the worlds of D&D, [B]you should check with your DM about any house rules that will affect your play of the game[/B]. Ultimately, the Dungeon Master is the authority on the campaign and its setting, even if the setting is a published world." The DM can allow, change or refuse anything, per RAW. Take the feat that eliminates that if you are one of those who even needs it. 1-3 =/= many. Most of the time you are just missing a few skill points and you can dedicate a few level's worth to get there. Super easy to find ways, especially since if you play by RAW, every item is available to purchase with the mounds of gold you find. Invest a few levels of skill points. So you go to the plane of shadow and as a result you are now Mister Nature Guy with Natural Explorer, natury ranger spells, favored enemies that don't make sense, fighting styles that don't make sense(shadows make me fight different!), and and on. The only thing ranger gives you before Gloomstalker that matches your theme is stealth Not all of us min-max/power game. And, well, we still don't suck. ;) [/QUOTE]
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