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<blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 9606077"><p>I never said he couldn't. He is published. But like I said he is right about stuff but also wrong about stuff on this front (and in my opinion Sad Puppies was just an inversion of the kind of gate keeping he was complaining about anyways) </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I dont fully disagree. I think there has been a broadening around certain things. Obviously there are places where things have opened up. But there is also a narrowing at the same time. I don't think it is black and white. </p><p></p><p>Just to bring it back to the Hugo's. If I recall, and I could be very wrong here as it was over ten years ago I think, one of the big books that sparked this was Ancillary Justice. I read the book. It was good. Not great in my opinion. But good. I think it definitely won the award because of its use of language around pronouns (and just to clear here, it isn't what people might think initially, it is because the main character is a ship AI put into a human body and the AI has no concept of gender, so throughout the book, the character switches its use of pronouns for the same character sometimes). I thought the idea of the AI was really interesting. I found the whole pronoun thing very confusing and I think you can have a reasonable discussion about whether politics was a factor in elevating that book due to its useage of pronouns. But I also don't think any of that makes Sad Puppies correct about things in general</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 85555, post: 9606077"] I never said he couldn't. He is published. But like I said he is right about stuff but also wrong about stuff on this front (and in my opinion Sad Puppies was just an inversion of the kind of gate keeping he was complaining about anyways) I dont fully disagree. I think there has been a broadening around certain things. Obviously there are places where things have opened up. But there is also a narrowing at the same time. I don't think it is black and white. Just to bring it back to the Hugo's. If I recall, and I could be very wrong here as it was over ten years ago I think, one of the big books that sparked this was Ancillary Justice. I read the book. It was good. Not great in my opinion. But good. I think it definitely won the award because of its use of language around pronouns (and just to clear here, it isn't what people might think initially, it is because the main character is a ship AI put into a human body and the AI has no concept of gender, so throughout the book, the character switches its use of pronouns for the same character sometimes). I thought the idea of the AI was really interesting. I found the whole pronoun thing very confusing and I think you can have a reasonable discussion about whether politics was a factor in elevating that book due to its useage of pronouns. But I also don't think any of that makes Sad Puppies correct about things in general [/QUOTE]
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