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No One Reads Conan Now -- So What Are They Reading?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 9606186" data-attributes="member: 7026594"><p>Just sort the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Moorcock_bibliography" target="_blank">Moorcock Elric bibliography</a> by Publishing Order instead of by Internal Chronology. Start at the beginning by picking up <em>The Dreaming City</em> and go from there. </p><p></p><p></p><p>As a few folks have pointed out, the Hugos specifically are a fandom vote. So it's not the tastes of critics specifically that the Sad Puppies were mad about, but their fellow fans. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't know that I'd single out the 80s. I think Theodore Sturgeon captured a valid point with his "law" about 90% of everything being crap. <em>Xanth </em>and the<em> Shannara</em> books started out in the 70s. Raymond Feist's <em>Magician</em>, and Weis & Hickman's <em>Dragonlance Chronicles </em>are 80s, and those are crap (I'm just picking ones I enjoyed as a teenage D&D player but whose writing I can now acknowledge is at best mediocre or actively bad). I'm not clear on how the books you mentioned are particularly conservative/playing it safe. Obviously <em>The Sword of Shannara</em> is Tolkien pastiche/rip-off, so in that sense it's hewing close to what's popular. Is that what you mean? Eddings' <em>Belgariad</em> was also modeled off Tolkien, but that was five years later. So I guess it follows the same plan of capitalizing on LotR's popularity, only several years after Brooks and others had already showed that to be a successful strategy. </p><p></p><p>Card was indeed great for those first three Ender books, '85, '86, '91. Damn shame how he turned out as a human being later.</p><p></p><p>"progressive conservatism" is oxymoronic. Do you mean "political correctness"? Obviously this isn't a good forum for snarl words like that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I have attention span issues now, as I think I lot of us suffer from. In recent years I've enjoyed some old pulp classics and some newer stuff like Jemisen, but I don't make enough time for novels in general. :/</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mannahnin, post: 9606186, member: 7026594"] Just sort the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Moorcock_bibliography']Moorcock Elric bibliography[/URL] by Publishing Order instead of by Internal Chronology. Start at the beginning by picking up [I]The Dreaming City[/I] and go from there. As a few folks have pointed out, the Hugos specifically are a fandom vote. So it's not the tastes of critics specifically that the Sad Puppies were mad about, but their fellow fans. I don't know that I'd single out the 80s. I think Theodore Sturgeon captured a valid point with his "law" about 90% of everything being crap. [I]Xanth [/I]and the[I] Shannara[/I] books started out in the 70s. Raymond Feist's [I]Magician[/I], and Weis & Hickman's [I]Dragonlance Chronicles [/I]are 80s, and those are crap (I'm just picking ones I enjoyed as a teenage D&D player but whose writing I can now acknowledge is at best mediocre or actively bad). I'm not clear on how the books you mentioned are particularly conservative/playing it safe. Obviously [I]The Sword of Shannara[/I] is Tolkien pastiche/rip-off, so in that sense it's hewing close to what's popular. Is that what you mean? Eddings' [I]Belgariad[/I] was also modeled off Tolkien, but that was five years later. So I guess it follows the same plan of capitalizing on LotR's popularity, only several years after Brooks and others had already showed that to be a successful strategy. Card was indeed great for those first three Ender books, '85, '86, '91. Damn shame how he turned out as a human being later. "progressive conservatism" is oxymoronic. Do you mean "political correctness"? Obviously this isn't a good forum for snarl words like that. I have attention span issues now, as I think I lot of us suffer from. In recent years I've enjoyed some old pulp classics and some newer stuff like Jemisen, but I don't make enough time for novels in general. :/ [/QUOTE]
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