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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pr1" data-source="post: 4324660" data-attributes="member: 69240">I agree with the original post in a sense.  Random or not, I think it's troubling that "default" in D&D is starting to be things like magic item wish lists.  When I make dungeons, I always put in what I think would actually be there in, plus one or two useful items I think would be "interesting" but intentionally not tailor-made for the characters.  For that kind of stuff, they can try to buy an item, hope the random tables have mercy on them, or ask around and maybe hear about one buried under the rubble of an ancient ruin....A lot of people corretly point out that you can play whatever kind of game you want; build your own magic item tables.  4e doesn't have to play like a video game.  But it's worth bringing up situations like this because, if you find enough of them, you're fighting the rules to play the game you want to play.  I don't know much about 4e, didn't look like what I wanted to play.  But even if magic item wish lists aren't "mandatory," they're still a problem if you don't like that sort of thing.</blockquote>